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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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I was able to knock off another $20 from my monthly payment by denying to pay for the sunroof addition to my Journey Package G37...I am proud to say I feel great about it.
You financed your G, yes? $1,000 financed equals approximately $20 in monthly payment over 60 months, not to mention you must have been on a base model to be "bumped" up to a Journey with sunroof. I can't speak on the particulars of your deal, but I'd say that you didn't get what you think you got as far as a deal is concerned.
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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It seems that this color combination with the Premium and Nav options is a rare combination. I've searched quite a few dealer's inventories, and haven't found any yet.
You are correct! I've had to "custom" order this same exact vehicle (but with spoiler) back in Sep. I don't think many people like the 6MT red-stone combo because there were none available (including scheduled shipment within 3 months) to any dealer on the east coast (I'm in MD). The vehicle arrived in Dec, but I had to delay the pickup because of travel with my job. I told them to sell it and I will reorder in March. When I went in to the dealership last week, my car was still there! <Perfectly placed in the middle of the showroom>

If you had done this search last week, you probably would have ended with my car! Timing is everything
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave ISM
I love reading quotes like this...

Dealers are not a non-profit organization. Period. You can't just "toss it in for free" when there's a cost involved and no profit. You don't clock in to work and expect your boss to give you a handshake instead of a paycheck, do you?

If the $242 is separating you and the car despite the additional equipment, I'd say you're a grumpy guy that doesn't tip the waitress at the restaurant. Conversely, $242 is peanuts in your payment ultimately.

Would you tip a waitress that did an absolutely horrible job at serving your food? $1 maybe. Remember, the customer is always right to an extent, and if they couldnt work w/ him for something as simple as throwing in some kick plates for the time he has to wait for getting the car, then i say he should take his business elsewhere. The dealership is making thier money off the purchase regardless of a $242 option. Dont sound grumpy to me, it just sounds like a justly unsatisfied customer.
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Old Apr 2, 2008 | 11:50 AM
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And yes, I've tipped that waitress that did a lousy job because I realize that it wasn't completely her/him that led to what I saw or thought to be a bad experience.

In this case, I'm thinking be a little reasonable with your local dealer. If they must dealer trade to accomodate you and get you the vehicle of your dreams, they will do so to earn your business (dealer trades end up actually costing a dealer a little more) however if in that trade they disclose it has more equipment, that cost must come from somewhere. Point being is that I hear people constantly coming in to me with "toss that in free" with me and I fully disclose everything with my consumers so if my back is against the wall and I'm already at a zero profit, there are limits to what I can include at no charge to the consumer and what I can't.

In many cases, the customer isn't always right, but it's nice to wish and demand when it borders on unreasonable.
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 04:52 PM
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Actually, when the dealer first wanted me to buy the car with the spoiler and illuminated kick plates, I asked him to take out the kick plates and only charge me $500 for the spoiler. I figured that way he could sell the kick plates to someone who wanted them. He said he couldn't do that. THEN I told him that since I didn't want them, and he couldn't take them out that he should include them with the spoiler for $500. And that's where it ended.
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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I get what you mean, but I would have paid the $500 extra for the spoiler (for the May delivery) if the dealer would have included the kick plates at N/C. I even asked him if he would remove the kick plates, but he refused. He just wanted that extra $242. Yes the car at invoice is good, but the dealer is still making 1% of the base price or $3,580, so he could have thrown in the kick plates to try to get a happy customer.
Isn't 1% of 38511 only $385? Anyhow, maybe it's because I wished that I had gotten the kick plates do I think that it's not a big deal to have to pay the extra $242. Anyhow, getting a car at invoice, especially an Infiniti, is a GREAT deal. Try buying a BMW and you'll know what I'm talking about. It's not like buying a Toyota or Honda where you can haggle the dealer to death.
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Old Apr 4, 2008 | 05:59 PM
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oh true, 1% of the price is 385, I was thinking it was 3580 like Pen......-G said.

Okay, now I understand why the dealer didn't want to include stuff in for free, they aren't making much money at all on this deal. you would of payed the 242 if u really wanted the car and its a rare G also, VB on stone.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 09:55 AM
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I made the mistake of thinking the holdback was $3580, but realized last week that it should have only been $358. When I first thought that the dealer was going to make $3580 profit and not deal with me for the $242 kick plates, I was a little upset (to say the least). In fact I e-mailed the dealer to apologize. I realize now that he was giving me a fair (and good) price for the car. The only problem was that the car with the spoiler and kick plates isn't in the country yet, and I didn't want to set myself up for another disappointment in another month or two. I have found a couple of other dealers that have the car I am looking for on their lots, so now I've got to talk to them seriously about price. They are a little farther away from my home though.
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Old Apr 5, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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^^ lol, calculation error
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:27 PM
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Hi everyone. I have been reading the posts here for a while, and I just joined the forum. I almost purchased a 6-mt with premium, nav, splash guards and trunk mat this past Saturday for $38,511 (which is Edmunds invoice price). The MSRP is $42,215. I signed the papers, left a $500 deposit, and thought everything was done. But... Yesterday I get an e-mail from my salesman that there was only one car with these options that had the vibrant red exterior with the stone interior in the area, but it sold on Saturday! This dealer just happened to have the same exact car on their lot BUT... it had the tech. package for an extra $1000. I told them no, I didn't want that. They then said that a similar car, but with spoiler and illuminated kick plates would be available sometime in May for $750 extra. Otherwise I'd have to wait till July if I ordered one. I told them that I'd pay $500 ($474 invoice) more for the spoiler (that I didn't even want) if they would throw in the kick plates ($268 invoice). They refused, so I told them to send my deposit back. So for a difference of $242, they lost the sale. What do you guys think? It just seemed to me like the classic bait-and-switch, initially promising me the car I wanted, then kept trying to sell me the more expensive model. I even explained to them that I drove 130 miles round trip to give them the deposit, but they didn't care. I thought that Infiniti dealers would have been above this type of sales game. Has anybody else had this type of treatment at Infiniti of West Chester (Pennsylvania)? So now I've got to look for another dealer who will sell me the car at invoice, without the BS. Any good experiences with dealers in Eastern Pa? (Sorry for the long post)
I'm not defending your dealer or anything, but maybe the salesman just switched over from a Nissan dealership and still thought he had to sell the car instead of letting the car sell itself!
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Old Apr 8, 2008 | 11:57 PM
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the tech package is absolutely worth paying $242..

i went through a similar experience.. called in a g37 i wanted then right as i was about to go buy it i got a friendly "oh by the way, we didnt know that this particular G has larger chrome rims until now.. is that okay with you?" umm NO.. scrap that G

later found a fully loaded G w/o tech package and had that dealer compete with another dealership that had a fully loaded G with tech package... i ended up getting a sweet deal and paying $2 extra for the tech package on a 3 year lease in addition to all the other features.. i couldnt be happier.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:22 PM
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No, the dealer wanted $1000 more for the tech package. On a different car, he wanted $750 more for the spoiler with the illuminated kick plates. I offered him $500 more, as I didn't want the illuminated kick plates (or the spoiler for that matter). The illuminated kick plates would have "cost" the dealer $242.
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Old Apr 10, 2008 | 08:26 PM
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^^ it ain't a garage sale, find another dealer

and plus u were getting a decent deal and blew it
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Old Apr 11, 2008 | 10:13 AM
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I don’t think I blew it. I rejected two deals; the first would have cost me $1000 extra (actually $1050) for the technology package, the second would have cost me $750 extra for the kick plates and spoiler. To me the kick plate/ spoiler option was only worth $500. What it all comes down to is what is the value to you, or more accurately, the perceived value. If you think the extra feature or option package is worth the extra price, then you will be willing to pay more. Let’s look at an imaginary “gold dipstick” option. Say there is a factory-installed option of a gold dipstick, made with 2 ounces of pure gold. Lets also assume that this option costs $1500. With gold currently selling at about $950 per ounce, one could say that this is a great deal. I’m getting $1900 worth of gold for only $1500. Other people would say that I am paying $1500 more than I want for something that I don’t want. This is why you find the leftover cars at the end of the year with all the options that nobody wanted to pay extra for during the year. You never find the base models sitting on the lots when the new models come out. These “loaded” cars may be a good deal to someone if they really want all these features. Many people look at the sticker price and then look at how much they are “saving” and think they got a great deal. They usually end up paying more for the “loaded” car than they would have for the base model if they bought it during the current model year. They think they got a good deal because they got “more car” (for more money).

Car buying can be a very emotional event. Some people will justify an additional $750 or $1000 for an option as only a small percentage of the total price. But $750 is still $750, even if you say it fast. The other justification is that it will only increase your monthly payments by $30, or $40(or whatever it comes out to.) You can surely afford $30 more a month for this magnificent car…. This is why dealers want to get you into their showroom. Many dealers can “sell” a car to someone who did not intend to buy that car to begin with.

So as of now, I am still looking. If I find a car that I think is a good value to me, I’ll buy it. It may not be a 2008 model, and it may not even be an Infiniti. I am in no hurry. As the economy sinks lower and lower into a recession, and the dollar continues to loose its value, car dealers and manufacturers may be more willing to make a little less profit, rather than make nothing.
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