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Old May 23, 2016 | 03:47 PM
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akebono.. are they really bbk

the rotors are a nice size.. although the entire setup looks like a fugazy to me..
four pistons encased on a big caliper... the pad surface area is almost the same as the four pistons on my mazda crossover..
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Old May 23, 2016 | 04:58 PM
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Old May 23, 2016 | 05:00 PM
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Yeah, it's a true BBK, but they are a very bloated BBK. The slimmer 6 pot setups sold by Stoptech, Brembo, Wilwood etc. w/ the 2 piece rotors are a more track oriented and much lighter way to go.
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Old May 23, 2016 | 11:34 PM
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But for the price of a OE setup it's worth it
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Old May 24, 2016 | 12:00 AM
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But for the price of a OE setup it's worth it
Very true Kenny, and it's one of the few mods that you can get almost all your money back if you ever put them back up for sale
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Old May 24, 2016 | 12:48 AM
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I've owned some high $$$ BBK's and have to admit, on the street anyway, the Akebonos are more than enough. And you'll not find me saying that much about anything OEM. I've used the Mustang GT performance pack Brembos in anger and yes, they were nice if not a bit of overkill honestly. But I've yet to be disappointed in the Akebono setup even with the stock pads.

One caveat, I do have plans for two-piece rotors all around. More for unsprung weight savings than anything. The bolt-on Brembo kit is tempting but I've not found the need. If/when I hit the track, I may feel differently.
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Old May 24, 2016 | 11:08 AM
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even the akebonos are overkill for the Gs unless youre hitting the track


but they sure look nice for the price honestly best bang for your buck when it comes to mods tho
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Old May 24, 2016 | 12:02 PM
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I typically define a BBK as being a floating caliper instead of a sliding design. Piston counts of 4 front/2 rear and up would be another good criteria.
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Old May 25, 2016 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ChinkyChoy
even the akebonos are overkill for the Gs unless youre hitting the track


but they sure look nice for the price honestly best bang for your buck when it comes to mods tho
They're acceptable for the track too, provided you do the other requisite stuff like brake pads, fluid and lines. Mine's been to several tracks now and it doesn't have any problems. Never had any issues with fade.
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Old May 25, 2016 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryne
I typically define a BBK as being a floating caliper instead of a sliding design. Piston counts of 4 front/2 rear and up would be another good criteria.
I think you meant to say fixed caliper, instead of floating caliper. A sliding caliper would be a floating caliper.
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Old May 29, 2016 | 04:50 PM
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2 piece rotors are nice for weight shaving but unless you're tracking the car often it's over priced option vs 1 piece rotor
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Old May 31, 2016 | 01:54 AM
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Interesting read I came across tonight...
Z Meets Wall: We Investigate Why the NISMO Z's Brakes Failed at Lightning Lap - Feature - Car and Driver
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Old May 31, 2016 | 11:54 AM
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That's six years old and the phenomenon is well known on the Z boards. There are two build logs on the370.com about installing ducting to the front brakes. I haven't read of anyone here doing Lightning Laps or road racing with a G so we collectively haven't yet run into this issue with the Akebonos.
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Old May 31, 2016 | 12:00 PM
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Yes, they talk about that in the discussion below the story. With that said, the brakes are the same now as they were six years ago so the info is relevant and food for thought. Our G's are 400-500 pounds heavier with less ducting in the front.

There are probably plenty of people who've tracked their G's. We certainly aren't the center of the universe. Hell, at the Nismo Fiesta event, I didn't meet one G owner who was on this board.

So...it's a good read for anyone contemplating running their own G hard on the track. I ran my RX7's stock brakes for many sessions at PBIR and Homestead and had to constantly replace rotors and pads as well as manage fade. And that was a 2500 pound car. When I started tracking at Sebring, I went with a big brake kit. Turn 17 is just too intimidating without them.
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Old May 31, 2016 | 12:09 PM
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Sentra SE-R had the same problem. The fix was to bolt up the front rotors and calipers from the '91 NX2000. No more fade. I parked my SE-R after 88k miles and it still had the original rear rotors and pads. And that included a dozen track events.

As I don't have any plans to track my G, I'm going to ignore the issue. If I decide otherwise later, I'll remove the (useless) fog lights and run ducting as well as install two-piece rotors and really big brakes.
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