Camber kit needed for Swift or Eibach springs?

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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 06:36 PM
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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 06:37 PM
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If you cant get aligned to within specs, are there settings that would be advantageous to handing?

I have an 8:00 appointment tomorrow for an alignment....
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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Lego_Maniac
If you cant get aligned to within specs, are there settings that would be advantageous to handing?

I have an 8:00 appointment tomorrow for an alignment....
Basically get your toe in spec and run a bit extra camber for more tire contact in the corners. Look forward to hear how it ends up. If you can get your camber under -2 that would be good as long as your toe is OK.
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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 06:49 PM
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if you go 2 a good alignment shop and tell them you want it aligned for better handling they should be able to do it for you because they asked me if I wanted it align for better handling or better treadwear
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Old Aug 28, 2014 | 07:07 PM
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if you go 2 a good alignment shop and tell them you want it aligned for better handling they should be able to do it for you because they asked me if I wanted it align for better handling or better treadwear

I'm going to a BWM and Porsche shop. They already told me if they can't get it to spec we can discuss options.

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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by halfshaft
I am hoping I can get the numbers to within limits after an alignment without camber kit, the camber kits would drive up the total cost by quite a bit .

Is it really that bad for tire wear if you drive around with like -1.8 to -2 camber?
Yes is the short answer. I was in the same boat a year ago. I put on Swift springs and my front right camber was -1.5, just outside the spec range of -1.2 so I thought Id be ok without a front camber kit.
I was wrong, after a few thousand miles my inside edge of my tire wore down pretty far.
I now have the full camber kit installed, but this cost me a tire and another alignment. So my advice, wait and find a used camber kit here on the forum, and save money in the long run by not destroying your tires.
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 10:29 AM
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Front L/R

1.1, 1.0 camber
1/32 toe on both sides

Rear
2.1 camber both sides
1/16 toe both sides
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Lego_Maniac
Front L/R

1.1, 1.0 camber
1/32 toe on both sides

Rear
2.1 camber both sides
1/16 toe both sides
So that's about .07 front and .14 rear toe-in, not bad, especially if you can flip your back tires every 5k-8k miles.
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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 02:58 PM
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So that's about .07 front and .14 rear toe-in, not bad, especially if you can flip your back tires every 5k-8k miles.
I'm only getting 10k out of my rear tires, so I might be ok. They didnt seem to think it would be problematic.
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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by halfshaft
What kind of camber did you have that caused such wear?
I forgot it was a while ago. I tried to get it within spec as close as possible
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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 10:19 PM
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So I got the swift springs and eibach sways installed. For the sways, I went with soft in the front and medium in the rear. I love the way the car looks and rides now. The entire suspension just feels tighter and more bolted down. It stays much flatter through corners, the steering seems more communicative and the tires grip amazingly well in the turns due to more negative camber. Ride comfort is great too.

My toe is just about perfect both front and rear. The camber in the front is ok at -1.3 to -1.4 but I have -2.3 to -2.4 camber in the rear which is way too much.

Will buying these be all I need to fix the rear camber?

SPL PRO SUSPENSION | SPL RLL Z34

I would like my rear camber nearly the same as the front.

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Old Sep 2, 2014 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by halfshaft
So I got the swift springs and eibach sways installed. For the sways, I went with soft in the front and medium in the rear. I love the way the car looks and rides now. The entire suspension just feels tighter and more bolted down. It stays much flatter through corners, the steering seems more communicative and the tires grip amazingly well in the turns due to more negative camber. Ride comfort is great too.

My toe is just about perfect both front and rear. The camber in the front is ok at -1.3 to -1.4 but I have -2.3 to -2.4 camber in the rear which is way too much.

Will buying these be all I need to fix the rear camber?

SPL PRO SUSPENSION | SPL RLL Z34

I would like my rear camber nearly the same as the front.
The toe is only slightly adjustable in back so you may need the toe bolt kit too. Those SPL arms are nice & beefy, but the rear SPC kit does a decent job and includes the toe kit for about $150 ish.
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by blnewt
The toe is only slightly adjustable in back so you may need the toe bolt kit too. Those SPL arms are nice & beefy, but the rear SPC kit does a decent job and includes the toe kit for about $150 ish.
The rear toe is currently fine, do you think it may go out of spec if I go with just SPL arms? Does installing the toe kit involve drilling? I'd like to avoid irreversible modifications if possible.

I know the SPC kit is cheaper, but I'm wondering if I should just get the highest quality SPL stuff since these arms are a vital part of the suspension.
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 09:34 AM
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It's a balancing act, right now you're sacrificing camber to keep your toe OK, with the new arms you'll get your camber anywhere you want it but toe is still only adjustable to a small range. Can't argue w/ wanting the beefiest parts for your suspension. You could get the SPLs and hopefully you can get both camber and toe in range, and if not the bolt set alone is only about $40, but yes, it does involve some cutting
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 07:20 PM
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Eibach prokit installed with 20X9 up front and 20X10.5 rear. No camber kits of any kind. front camber is -1.5 left side and -1.6 on right side. OEM max is -1.2 so slightly out up front. Front toe is within OEM range It does make a difference on tire wear but I'm using hankooks and I only drive about 5k miles a year so I'll just throw some $100/side rubber on the front when needed. Original Bridgestones only lasted me like 18k miles anyway. Rear camber is -1.5 on both sides and toe is well within spec on the rear as well. Money not being an object I would get the front fixed, but my wife gets pissed when I spend money on the car, ha ha. Oh, it's a 2010 Journey coupe by the way.

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