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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 09:19 AM
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Coilovers

Sorry for the dumb question guys, I don't know much about suspension. I'm currently on just s tech lowering springs and want to get coilovers. I've read allot of threads about coil overs and what's good and not, but i'm still unsure about what is needed besides just the coilover. I know there are camber/toe kits, and strut bars etc, but my question is are they nessecary? And if they are then what do I need to get. Thank you any input is greatly appreciated
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 10:58 AM
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Short answer: Front camber arms, rear camber arms, and rear toe bolts are what you need to go with your coilovers if you lower more than about an inch. Anything beyond that is extra.

Longer explanation: Coilovers are a complete system. They are all you need to actually lower your car. However, once you lower past a certain point (there's no definitive consensus on exactly how much lower but beyond about 1" is a good place to start) you will need extra parts in order to adjust your alignment to be able to get back within factory specs. Usually this requires modified aftermarket front upper control arms (usually just called camber arms or kit) and rear camber arms and toe bolts. Nothing else is absolutely necessary. If you get aftermarket stiffer sway bars, this will greatly reduce body roll but they are a completely separate part of the suspension and not directly related to coilovers. A front strut tower brace or bar is a different piece meant to stiffen the front suspension but it only gives (arguably) minimal improvement on a RWD platform with a fairly rigid body like the G37. The least necessary and the least bang for your buck suspension mod. Not required at all. Lastly, lowering a suspension puts a lot of stress on OEM suspension components that they weren't designed for or equipped to handle. It will wear out things like bushings more than a stock suspension will. When this happens (or before) that's when you might look into upgrading to polyurethane or solid metal ones.

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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Black Betty
Short answer: Front camber arms, rear camber arms, and rear toe bolts are what you need to go with your coilovers if you lower more than about an inch. Anything beyond that is extra.

Longer explanation: Coilovers are a complete system. They are all you need to actually lower your car. However, once you lower past a certain point (there's no definitive consensus on exactly how much lower but beyond about 1" is a good place to start) you will need extra parts in order to adjust your alignment to be able to get back within factory specs. Usually this requires modified aftermarket front upper control arms (usually just called camber arms or kit) and rear camber arms and toe bolts. Nothing else is absolutely necessary. If you get aftermarket stiffer sway bars, this will greatly reduce body roll but they are a completely separate part of the suspension and not directly related to coilovers. A front strut tower brace or bar is a different piece meant to stiffen the front suspension but it only gives (arguably) minimal improvement on a RWD platform with a fairly rigid body like the G37. The least necessary and the least bang for your buck suspension mod. Not required at all. Lastly, lowering a suspension puts a lot of stress on OEM suspension components that they weren't designed for or equipped to handle. It will wear out things like bushings more than a stock suspension will. When this happens (or before) that's when you might look into upgrading to polyurethane or solid metal ones.

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Thanks for the reply! That really cleared up all my confusion. Now I know what I need to look for. Thanks again
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 04:27 PM
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Stanced, How long have you had your S Techs? Those are deep drop springs so if you don't already have camber/toe kits I'd surely get some. I doubt your alignment specs are even close right now w/out the kits. BTW saw your G in your build thread and really like what you've done thus far. Your camber looks to be over -2 in the rear judging by the pics.
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by blnewt
Stanced, How long have you had your S Techs? Those are deep drop springs so if you don't already have camber/toe kits I'd surely get some. I doubt your alignment specs are even close right now w/out the kits. BTW saw your G in your build thread and really like what you've done thus far. Your camber looks to be over -2 in the rear judging by the pics.
ive had them on for almost a month now.what kit would you recomend, i dont want to take any chances of killing my tires faster then i need to. thanks btw
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 08:37 PM
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Look at spl arms..
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 09:35 PM
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SPL cost a bit more but are nice, sturdy pieces. I have the SPC F&R kit w/rear toe bolts, they've been just fine, had them for a few years now w/ my B&G springs and now my coilovers. They run about $500 for the whole kit.
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Old Feb 27, 2014 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by blnewt
SPL cost a bit more but are nice, sturdy pieces. I have the SPC F&R kit w/rear toe bolts, they've been just fine, had them for a few years now w/ my B&G springs and now my coilovers. They run about $500 for the whole kit.
Sounds good, will definitely be looking into that
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