When do I need camber arms?

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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 04:41 PM
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When do I need camber arms?

Ok, I see a ton of pictures of various drops on everyone's G's, and some people run camber kits and some don't. I can't seem to find a correlation between which springs/coils/height requires a camber kit and what doesn't.

What I want to accomplish is a drop with the fender right above the tire, but not have the tire tucked under the fender at all. Basically zero, but not negative, gap if that makes sense. I plan to accomplish this with coilovers instead of something like H&R springs. Will I need camber kits or not? Or are there too many other variables to know for sure?

If I missed a thread somewhere explaining this, please point it out.

Thanks for any help.
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Old Feb 9, 2014 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Mulatto
Ok, I see a ton of pictures of various drops on everyone's G's, and some people run camber kits and some don't. I can't seem to find a correlation between which springs/coils/height requires a camber kit and what doesn't.

What I want to accomplish is a drop with the fender right above the tire, but not have the tire tucked under the fender at all. Basically zero, but not negative, gap if that makes sense. I plan to accomplish this with coilovers instead of something like H&R springs. Will I need camber kits or not? Or are there too many other variables to know for sure?

If I missed a thread somewhere explaining this, please point it out.

Thanks for any help.
IMO you're much better off getting the camber/toe kits when lowering your G from mild to wild and all points in between. Wanting a zero gap drop you'll have pretty dramatic tire wear w/out any camber help. The money you spend on tires will offset the cost of the kits in a couple years. The peace of mind having your suspension set correctly is worth the price by itself IMO.
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Old Feb 11, 2014 | 02:25 PM
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Thank you for that info.
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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mulatto
Ok, I see a ton of pictures of various drops on everyone's G's, and some people run camber kits and some don't. I can't seem to find a correlation between which springs/coils/height requires a camber kit and what doesn't.

What I want to accomplish is a drop with the fender right above the tire, but not have the tire tucked under the fender at all. Basically zero, but not negative, gap if that makes sense. I plan to accomplish this with coilovers instead of something like H&R springs. Will I need camber kits or not? Or are there too many other variables to know for sure?

If I missed a thread somewhere explaining this, please point it out.

Thanks for any help.
In my book, from the factory needs everything! The fronts are to low on camber and the rears are to high.

When you lower, the front gets much better but the rear get even worse. Depending on what you want out of the car for performance, most just get rear items and leave the front alone. For the track you'll want a ton more camber in the front requiring arms. But normally the fronts need them anyways as I've seen big swings in numbers from right to left and most like them even.

With a zero gap you will 100% need everything. The fronts will be pushing mid -2's which you won't want for the street.
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Old Feb 12, 2014 | 09:44 PM
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Synolimit, thanks a lot for that response. If I'm going to need everything, I just need to decide whether I want to drop so much money for just a drop BEFORE I even spend over $2k on wheels as well. Guess I have to pay to play Thanks again.
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Old Feb 13, 2014 | 06:16 AM
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Well it depends what you want and when. I'm on swifts now with SPL rear camber and traction arms. I made my own lockout kit for toe and camber but if you're a street guy you'll just buy bigger toe and camber eccentric bolts. Minus the traction arms I'm in for like $530 which isn't to bad. I'm on 18's so I have maybe a 2 finger gap which is enough since my front bumper is 3" off the ground. It's all ok for the street but my front needs arms to even out the camber difference.

I'd do the suspension first if I were you to get the performance and tire wear out of the way, then go wheels so you don't kill new tires.
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