Worth dropping/lowering the S model on springs?

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Old 01-30-2013, 07:40 PM
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Ok I'm surprised I'm the first to say this but here goes, coils are not just for a drop, they improve handling greatly, specially with high quality coils. The difference between stock sport suspension and coilovers are night and day, if you get high quality coils, the overall ride is smoother not harsher, and 10 times more fun to drive. Springs might improve handling a little but there basically meant for a drop, unless coupled with quality shocks. In no way does it downgrade the value, on the contrary if I decide to sell mine with the mods, that will be reflected in the price, unless I part out.

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Old 01-30-2013, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Roman G
Thanks for all the replys.

I'm not an idiot, I know the results of getting springs would be lowered car with stiffer handling.

My question was specifically about sport suspension model and adding springs to that.

I am perfectly happy with the handling, for now anyway, I was only curious about sport model suspension.

Those with sport suspension who got aftermarket springs, how do you like it? Which ones did u get and HOW MUCH IMPROVEMENT HAVE YOU NOTICED?

thanks guys

Before I got my Hotchki sways I went from the "S" suspension to the Eibachs. It looked a lot better but unfortunately it did hide my control arms. The handling was noticeably improved (more so than just a strut tower bar) but I it did result in a harsher ride (est. 5%-10%). For me it was well worth it. I have moved on to some KW v3 coils and the handling is improved and the ride seems about the same but that is easily adjustable.
I don't give a flying *&^0 what anyone does with their rides and I have certainly seen some atrocious mods but for me the suspension changes have improved the car to my liking.
Old 01-30-2013, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Nice first post. Seriously, no sarcasm from me.

Aside from the impracticality, I've always thought lowering a car looks rather childish once the top-of-wheel gap gets noticeably more narrow than the sides. It takes a serious amount of proper attention to lower a car properly, with the right rims, tires, offset and reasonable height. And even then, you have to deal with the impracticality of daily driving, like canucklhead here.

The Sport suspension on the RWD G37 is so much better than the non-Sport (or G37xS, for that matter), but you can improve things with aftermarket sways and coilovers. And the likelihood is that if you do go with coilovers, then you'll drop the car a little, because you can.

Yesterday I parked my stock-suspension 6MT nose-2-nose next to a G25x, at the end of a parking lot. It gave me the chance to step back and compare. The differences between the two were so obvious, I was kind of amused.
I kinda feel like i look immature when rolling low as well.


I had eibachs, and sways... i grew out of it. Yea it handled good, but i spend most of my time driving in straight lines, on interstates... So i brought it back to stock, added some michelin super sport tires and look forward to driving the car every single day. I love my car. I think Infiniti did a great job setting it up between a good balance of sport and comfort with good ride quality. It isn't a race car, it is a near luxury sports sedan. Not gonna both dinking around trying to make this big heavy car handle good. I'll buy my summer car at some point and enjoy this car the way it is.
Old 01-30-2013, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by WannabeSport
I kinda feel like i look immature when rolling low as well.


I had eibachs, and sways... i grew out of it. Yea it handled good, but i spend most of my time driving in straight lines, on interstates... So i brought it back to stock, added some michelin super sport tires and look forward to driving the car every single day. I love my car. I think Infiniti did a great job setting it up between a good balance of sport and comfort with good ride quality. It isn't a race car, it is a near luxury sports sedan. Not gonna both dinking around trying to make this big heavy car handle good. I'll buy my summer car at some point and enjoy this car the way it is.
I've had a bunch of cars/trucks/SUVs/4x4s, over my 50 years and my G is the first one that I've lowered (I've raised quite a few, lol). The lowered stance does attract attention, get a lot of positive comments from folks of different ages from the speed racer kids up to 60 yr old valet attendants. Sure the lowered stance is "cool" with the younger crowd, but IMO if it's tastefully done without crazy camber and scraping on anything larger than a marble it looks real nice. The spring drop I had was pretty obtrusive and would require always having to be on the lookout for potential hazards. Since making the switch to coils I'm not as low and the ride is SO much more comfortable and controlled, I can actually drive the car as hard as I like without my previous worry. I like sinking down in the seat (feeling like I'm back in my dads old Porsche 914) and being closer to the road, just feel a bit more connected to the drive. It might sound hokey but that's the way it is for me
Old 01-30-2013, 10:19 PM
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Originally Posted by blnewt
I've raised quite a few, lol
Being 49, I remember, too, Newt. There was a time when it was all the rage to raise the rear end with air-shocks.

Old 01-30-2013, 10:43 PM
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My 6MT is dropped (sorry meant slammed 2-1/4"r &2-1/8"f) on H&R springs. Due to the quality/progressive rate of the springs the ride is very very close to stock. I also finally added H&R 20mm spacers at all four corners which made the stance look more agressive. I've gotton compliments from all ages and sexes on the car. Of course the front lip, rear deck lip and lets not forget the moonlight white are also contributing factors. Very happy with final outcome. I will say I am concious of very steep entrances and certain bumps but its worth it.
Old 01-30-2013, 10:52 PM
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It doesn't matter how old you are. It's opinion on what looks good.

I'm 40 and I'm dropped on coils 25 7/8" all 4 corners. I think it's a little low for my taste and am going to raise it up about 1/2"....but still, I think it looks good. The stance just looks mean.
Old 01-31-2013, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Rad_Slinger
It doesn't matter how old you are. It's opinion on what looks good.

I'm 40 and I'm dropped on coils 25 7/8" all 4 corners. I think it's a little low for my taste and am going to raise it up about 1/2"....but still, I think it looks good. The stance just looks mean.
That's where I was w/ my springs, I liked the stance that low but it was tough taking it on long trips w/ the firmed up ride and having to be on the lookout all the time when going into unknown parking garages (especially the older undergound ones in Vegas). The Riviera Casino & Caesars Palace have some of the biggest speed humps (those ones that will just about leave all 4 wheels off the ground and you resting on your frame )
Raising mine just a minimal amount made such a huge difference and the firmness settings on the coils get me just the comfort & control I was after.
And yes, the stance does look a little angry
Old 01-31-2013, 11:29 AM
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I would consider putting coils in, but I drive this thing year round in snow, salt, and dirt and I would really hate to wreck a thousand dollars in coilovers.

That, and if I bought suspension, i'd have to put it in, and then take it out whenever I eventually sell it. I am so burnt out on taking suspensions in and out of these cars (been doing it for 5 years now...) that I literally never want to see a piece of suspension again... i hate getting under this car and Im not about to pay someone $500 to put the **** in. That is why I just live with what I got. Isn't worth the hassle to me or the fact that I'll potentially ruin the stuff once I start driving it in the snow and wet crap. Rather spend the $1000 on a vacation or some new stereo equipment... or my Q50 when I go to order it lol.
Old 01-31-2013, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by WannabeSport
I would consider putting coils in, but I drive this thing year round in snow, salt, and dirt and I would really hate to wreck a thousand dollars in coilovers.

That, and if I bought suspension, i'd have to put it in, and then take it out whenever I eventually sell it. I am so burnt out on taking suspensions in and out of these cars (been doing it for 5 years now...) that I literally never want to see a piece of suspension again... i hate getting under this car and Im not about to pay someone $500 to put the **** in. That is why I just live with what I got. Isn't worth the hassle to me or the fact that I'll potentially ruin the stuff once I start driving it in the snow and wet crap. Rather spend the $1000 on a vacation or some new stereo equipment... or my Q50 when I go to order it lol.
good point, at least COs are quite a bit easier to install than springs
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Originally Posted by WannabeSport
I would consider putting coils in, but I drive this thing year round in snow, salt, and dirt and I would really hate to wreck a thousand dollars in coilovers.

That, and if I bought suspension, i'd have to put it in, and then take it out whenever I eventually sell it. I am so burnt out on taking suspensions in and out of these cars (been doing it for 5 years now...) that I literally never want to see a piece of suspension again... i hate getting under this car and Im not about to pay someone $500 to put the **** in. That is why I just live with what I got. Isn't worth the hassle to me or the fact that I'll potentially ruin the stuff once I start driving it in the snow and wet crap. Rather spend the $1000 on a vacation or some new stereo equipment... or my Q50 when I go to order it lol.
From what I've read over the last couple of years, CO manufacturers are making their products more weather friendly then they used to be. IIRC, that was one of the marketing points in the model that Tein replaced their SS line with.

Either way, Wannabe... it's time for you to get a Q50 and call it a day. In fact, lease the car even.

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Old 01-31-2013, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by blnewt
good point, at least COs are quite a bit easier to install than springs
They are significantly easier to install. Hell, when I bought my eibach kit, the guy just gave them to me attached to his struts so I just popped them in and popped the OEM out. Was very easy! I was lucky though as this car had never seen a winter so no rusty bolts. I always run that risk that some ****s gonna strip or break or seize and then im ****ing around at the hardware store trying to get the right damn bolt or a tap/dye kit to fix it so im not without a car the next day. God that got my temper going. Just don't have the patience anymore.
Originally Posted by Rochester
From what I've read over the last couple of years, CO manufacturers are making their products more weather friendly then they used to be. IIRC, that was one of the marketing points in the model that Tein replaced their SS line with.

Either way, Wannabe... it's time for you to get a Q50 and call it a day. In fact, lease the car even.
With the list of different cars i'd like to own growing with every day, I will definitely be leasing my next car. I enjoy something new every 2-3 years. And if I am absolutely in love with the car, i'll just buy it out at the end and keep it a bit longer.

But that is good that the coil over manufacturers are making them more weather resistent. That would help guys like me that drive all the time.

Maybe i am just getting old beyond my years. Coilovers, and wheels just dont excite me like they use to.
Old 02-01-2013, 12:29 AM
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If u drive it year round CO would be your best bet. You could lower it in the summer and raise it ip in the winter.

It's what I'd do if I had a second set of rims with winter tires....
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Originally Posted by Rad_Slinger
If u drive it year round CO would be your best bet. You could lower it in the summer and raise it ip in the winter.
...all the while developing a strong relationship with the shop that does your alignments.
Old 02-01-2013, 08:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
...all the while developing a strong relationship with the shop that does your alignments.
This is true, and good point...forgot to bring that up.

However.....for $170 you can get lifetime alignments from Firestone. They actually do a pretty good job.

Besides, twice a year isn't that bad. Should be doing it twice a year anyway.
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