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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 06:30 PM
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'09 Sport Sedan Fog Lights Question...

As the title says. I have an '09 sport. I'm not even sure if the secondary lights in the main light housing are considered "fog lights" or just something else. But I'd like to know if there are more powerful bulbs I can drop in to actually get some light out of those...? I have no interest in a fashion show, I would just like to get better night visibility.

I have searched this forum extensively, and there are countless threads regarding various fog light mods for the '10+ cars. But precious little information for the 2008 and 2009 models.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 06:43 PM
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Yellow bulbs will give you better night visibility.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 06:52 PM
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Sure. Understand that. But what about the other specs? Wattage, type, etc? The stock housing hides the actual bulb, but it looks rather over-built for the ****-poor light that trickles out of those units.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:05 PM
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wattage and bulb style will be in your manual. i don't remember exactly want the bulb type is for 2009, but I believe it's H11. Wattage should be standard. I believe it's 35w or 55w at most.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by sniper27
wattage and bulb style will be in your manual. i don't remember exactly want the bulb type is for 2009, but I believe it's H11. Wattage should be standard. I believe it's 35w or 55w at most.
Sure. Thanks. I wasn't very clear about my last response, concerning specs. Are there options for bulbs / kits which are substantially more powerful than the stock specs? Even if I use amber, the stock output is so weak that it won't change much for my visible range at night.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:25 PM
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Don't use a higher wattage bulb than what is spec'd or else you'll run the risk of frying your wires.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:33 PM
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Yellow actually is proven not to make any difference. Properly mounted and aimed is the key to good fog lights. I've been using Hoen fog lights in my car. They are relatively cheap high quality bulbs. I have them on my 09 and am happy.

Pulled from autoanythings website:

The old wives' tale that yellow fog lights give you greater visibility over white or blue ones is just not true. The premise of that superstition, that yellow light waves are long enough to pass through water particles without reflecting back into the driver's eyes, is based on a misinterpretation of Lord Rayleigh's principle of light scattering. As it turns out, the water particles in fog and mist are entirely too large to have an effect on any light waves from fog lights, be they yellow, white, blue or even green. In other words, any fog light that is properly mounted and aimed is effective, so don't worry about the color.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Redpit
Yellow actually is proven not to make any difference. Properly mounted and aimed is the key to good fog lights. I've been using Hoen fog lights in my car. They are relatively cheap high quality bulbs. I have them on my 09 and am happy.

Pulled from autoanythings website:

The old wives' tale that yellow fog lights give you greater visibility over white or blue ones is just not true. The premise of that superstition, that yellow light waves are long enough to pass through water particles without reflecting back into the driver's eyes, is based on a misinterpretation of Lord Rayleigh's principle of light scattering. As it turns out, the water particles in fog and mist are entirely too large to have an effect on any light waves from fog lights, be they yellow, white, blue or even green. In other words, any fog light that is properly mounted and aimed is effective, so don't worry about the color.
Cool. Thanks. So, you're simply using the Hoen bulbs inside the standard receptacle up in the main light housing? You didn't install something in the bumper, right?

Do you happen to recall the exact bulbs you're using? Are they noticeably more effective than the stock bulbs?
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:50 PM
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If you really want more light, then get Philips HIR bulbs from candlepower store, they are a replacement for 9006/HB4 and significantly brighter.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 07:54 PM
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If you really want more light, then get Philips HIR bulbs from candlepower store, they are a replacement for 9006/HB4 and significantly brighter.
That's better advice then mine. Also Toshiba makes a highly regarded HIR bulb. The Hoens are definately better than stock, but HIR's are the brightest you can get short of HID's.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 08:05 PM
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awais & Redpit:

Thanks! But let's pretend that I'm kind of dumb (not a stretch) about this stuff...

What is "HIR"? And are those intended for the stock fob light receptacles?
You're not talking about changing the headlight HID's, right?

Sorry for seeming dense.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 08:08 PM
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if you want output, Go with HID 9006 3000k yellow then swap your oem lens with 3" clear lens and enjoy the show at night.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 08:32 PM
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awais & Redpit:

Thanks! But let's pretend that I'm kind of dumb (not a stretch) about this stuff...

What is "HIR"? And are those intended for the stock fob light receptacles?
You're not talking about changing the headlight HID's, right?

Sorry for seeming dense.
HIR are simple plug and play, no ballast like HID. HIR Headlights 9011 9012 bulbs. I have no clue about that website, but they give a good brief summary on HIR bulbs.

I guess the Toshiba's don't exist anymore so Phillips is the one to go with.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Redpit
HIR are simple plug and play, no ballast like HID. HIR Headlights 9011 9012 bulbs. I have no clue about that website, but they give a good brief summary on HIR bulbs.

I guess the Toshiba's don't exist anymore so Phillips is the one to go with.

Ah, thanks. But here's the thing. The 9006 (HB4) bulb is listed as a "low beam" replacement. Just to be clear, I'm talking about the fog light bulb for the 2009 light assembly. Not the older split high/low bulb assembly from all the previous model G cars. Again, sorry, if I'm confusing people.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 08:47 PM
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I have 3000K HID's in mine. Nice and bright! And they are 9006! They are considered foglights because they aim lower than the low beams!

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