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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 12:14 PM
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Fogging?

Got a question that I'd really appreciate an answer for as I do my continued research into the G Coupe.

One of the things I hate the most about the genesis coupe (I know, pass up the flame opportunity please) is how poorly the HID head lights were designed.

They fog at the earliest opportunity. I've determined its a humidity in the air issue, but either way, any time its under 60F, or the humidity is high, the lights fog up something awful. To the point when they dry there's water residue inside.

I've found that going from 4300K OEM HIDs to 6000K HIDs the problem got even worse.

NOW, my question, is there any fogging issues with the G's headlights? I've seen countless BMWs, Mercs, Minis, Acuras, and I'm yet to see fogging. Is the G similar? Does a certain K of HID allow for fogging?

Info would be greatly appreciated.

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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 12:47 PM
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ZERO.. I have that on my Drivers fod light., But thats cause my LED bulb dosent sit right.Will be adjusting it this weekend.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 01:37 PM
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0 problems here...
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 01:45 PM
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Please list the temp of HID your'e using also.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Swacer
Please list the temp of HID your'e using also.
I dont think his G is doing it( Dosent have one yet) His Genisis Coupe has it.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ANMVQ
I dont think his G is doing it( Dosent have one yet) His Genisis Coupe has it.
What?

I'm just asking if the G experiences any fogging issues. I'm looking to pick up an 2012 IPL next spring and I'd like to put that concern to rest. The fogging is one of my biggest pet peeves and I would like to make sure the G will not do such with the OEM or 6000K HID bulbs in it.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 02:18 PM
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No fogging issue here. 6000k bulbs.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 02:47 PM
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Bulb temperature has nothing to do with it. The G's headlights are completely sealed units, no water can get in. Genesis must have an open design.
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 02:50 PM
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never had a problem with mine
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Old Sep 22, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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Hmm, completely sealed unit? Unless it was put together in a vaccum, I tend to disagree. lol (no pun intended)

The moment you opened the back to replace the bulb, you introduced humidity into the housing. Thus, water is now in there.

Second, bulb temp has everything to do with it. The amount of fog/condensed water in the housing is based upon dew point. The hotter the temperature of the bulb, the more water that condenses at the dew point and appears on the lens. It also has a major factor with the temperature of the air you're driving through as you create a temperature gradient across the plastic lense.

Based upon what most of you have said, I can tell Hyundai took a crap open system design which uses air flow to cool the lights, Infiniti must have a better approach.

However, if I"m wrong in any way, please correct me.

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Correct me if I'm wrong but bulbs like 4500k, 6000K specify color temps, not actual operating temps.


Gen coupe lights does have an intentional opening. I've worked on a set before.
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Originally Posted by ucla bruin
Correct me if I'm wrong but bulbs like 4500k, 6000K specify color temps, not actual operating temps.


Gen coupe lights does have an intentional opening. I've worked on a set before.
That's what I thought, but I've read somewhere that if you put HIDs in cheap headlight housing, maybe something aftermarket, that the housing plastic could melt, especially on higher temp HIDs. Unless, it's because HIDs usaully operate at higher temps anyway?
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Originally Posted by ucla bruin
Correct me if I'm wrong but bulbs like 4500k, 6000K specify color temps, not actual operating temps.


Gen coupe lights does have an intentional opening. I've worked on a set before.
They are crap. I've spent $1000+ trying to get them to stop fogging. Gained nothing...

Another reason I will happily wave goodbye to that car next spring.
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My friend with gen coup got it done locally here in So Cal by some guy. REALLY good price. No fogging problem. Let me know if you want the info.
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That's what I thought, but I've read somewhere that if you put HIDs in cheap headlight housing, maybe something aftermarket, that the housing plastic could melt, especially on higher temp HIDs. Unless, it's because HIDs usaully operate at higher temps anyway?
Maybe if you're putting HID in lights that are originally designed with halogen only. But since our G is fitted from HID from the factory, we don't have the problem.
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