Michelin Pilot Sport 4S
I was wondering about that. I'm looking for a new pair of 275/35-19 for the rears, and through TireRack there are 3 entirely separate listings all for Pilot Super Sport.

They all have the same specs, except one is 1 pound lighter than the other two. What I don't understand is "tread width", which range from 9.5" to 10" to 10.2". What's up with that?
Also, the PSS all have a 10/32" tread depth, whereas the PS4 has a 9.5/32" tread depth. While a 1/64" difference is almost laughable to care, thought I'd mention it anyway.
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Regarding the issue of variation in tread "width" for identically sized tires... I'm running this by TireRack. My non-engineer question is this: would an identically sized tire having a 1/2" less wide tread width be less subject to wear on the edge when the wheel is aligned with camber out of spec? Conventional wisdom (LOL) says "Yes".
Seems this anomalous PSS, with the 1/2" smaller tread width, and 1 pound lighter overall weight, was manufactured specifically for BMW. That's interesting.

They all have the same specs, except one is 1 pound lighter than the other two. What I don't understand is "tread width", which range from 9.5" to 10" to 10.2". What's up with that?
Also, the PSS all have a 10/32" tread depth, whereas the PS4 has a 9.5/32" tread depth. While a 1/64" difference is almost laughable to care, thought I'd mention it anyway.
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Regarding the issue of variation in tread "width" for identically sized tires... I'm running this by TireRack. My non-engineer question is this: would an identically sized tire having a 1/2" less wide tread width be less subject to wear on the edge when the wheel is aligned with camber out of spec? Conventional wisdom (LOL) says "Yes".
Seems this anomalous PSS, with the 1/2" smaller tread width, and 1 pound lighter overall weight, was manufactured specifically for BMW. That's interesting.
Last edited by Rochester; Mar 9, 2017 at 10:35 AM.
Yes, I know that. Didn't think the load index was worth mentioning. Otherwise, the only diff is weight and tread width. And since weight is in whole numbers, I suspect the less-wide tread tire has enough less material to tip it down a notch.
I wonder if it has to do with variation in the inner/outer tread blocks and their method of measurements? It seems counter intuitive that the same tire has different widths for the same size, but they stress it's tread width, not overall width.
Tire Rack's answer to that question:
For a moment there I was thinking the BMW-spec'd PSS could introduce the option of longer tread life (allowing for camber wear) at the compromise of a 1/2" in the contact patch.
Another fine example how conventional wisdom is only convenient, and not necessarily wise.
Per my fitment team.
Unfortunately, the tread width of the tire isn’t going to combat camber wear that is a result of the alignment. The negative camber places greater pressure on the inside shoulders of the tires when the vehicle is being driven in a straight line, and if the tire is wider or narrower, it will still concentrate the wear in the location that is in most direct contact with the road.
Unfortunately, the tread width of the tire isn’t going to combat camber wear that is a result of the alignment. The negative camber places greater pressure on the inside shoulders of the tires when the vehicle is being driven in a straight line, and if the tire is wider or narrower, it will still concentrate the wear in the location that is in most direct contact with the road.
Another fine example how conventional wisdom is only convenient, and not necessarily wise.
In terms of long lasting, I had excellent experience with the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S but again this is an all season tire.
So far, they're still a little squirmy, but the sidewall seems to be marginally stiffer than the PSS. They feel solid, at least as good as PSS, but as I said, they're still squirmy, so I'll continue to let them outgas. I'm also going to be away from my car for the next couple weeks, but I'll be sure to update this thread when they settle.
Edit: I forgot to address your question: the noise seems to be pretty similar to the PSS, but a little more damped. But keep in mind that it's comparing a cording tire to a full tread tire, so that may account for much of the sound difference. The "sound quality" seems to be pretty similar though, so I wouldn't expect them to be all that different from the PSS when they get to the same amount of wear.
Edit: I forgot to address your question: the noise seems to be pretty similar to the PSS, but a little more damped. But keep in mind that it's comparing a cording tire to a full tread tire, so that may account for much of the sound difference. The "sound quality" seems to be pretty similar though, so I wouldn't expect them to be all that different from the PSS when they get to the same amount of wear.
PSS were def the cheapest on Tire Rack. Not sure if there any more Michelin Visa card offers. I didn't get anything from Tire Rack but I got free roadside hazard which is a must for these tires that love to attract road debris.








