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Yellafella 02-28-2017 12:37 AM

Michelin Pilot Sport 4S
 
Hey guys,
I was just wondering if any of you put these tires on your G or had driven a vehicle with them. I just wanted wanted some opinions and reviews on these tires before I pull the trigger on em. I heard they recently went on sale in the US and are supposed to be the successor to the Pilot Supersports

Ape Factory 02-28-2017 12:46 AM

If they're better than the PSS, then they'll be phenomenal. I heard they weren't going to become available til around May though.

Yellafella 02-28-2017 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by Ape Factory (Post 4113599)
If they're better than the PSS, then they'll be phenomenal. I heard they weren't going to become available til around May though.

I think they are coming out this March actually. From what I've heard, they do perform better than the PSS in terms of braking, lap times and even tread wear. They also perform much better in the wet than the PSS and last longer too

RadioFlyer 02-28-2017 03:42 AM

I have an order in for them with Tire Rack. It shows a delivery date of March 29. I hope they stick to that date! I'll post a review when I get them mounted.

Goonz 02-28-2017 06:18 AM

The 4S are an updated version of the PSS. I spoke to a Michelin rep who told me that the PSS will still be available but the 4S is def. an upgrade and as you saw from the rating projections on Tire Rack, this tire will be on par with the PSS or perhaps a tad bit better. I wanted these on my Q50 but unfortunately a 255/40 isn't available yet so PSS it is for now.

Ape Factory 02-28-2017 09:27 AM

I noticed the same on Tire Rack's site, no 255's which is what I need. The 285's are close in diameter to the OEM tires but they're a few pounds heavier each than a 255.

I have PSS on my car now and it was a remarkable improvement over the OEM Bridgestone RE-O50A's.

Goonz 02-28-2017 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by Ape Factory (Post 4113645)
I have PSS on my car now and it was a remarkable improvement over the OEM Bridgestone RE-O50A's.

RE050 is hands down garbage, I don't understand for the life of me why they still sell this tire. Switching to PSS was like night and day, what an amazing tire.

Lego_Maniac 02-28-2017 12:48 PM

My current PSS are getting thin and need replacing sooner than later.

245/40/19 and 275/35/19 PSS are $1027 shipped from tire rack.

Same sizes in the PS4 would be $1221.

Million dollar question: Are the PS4s worth $194 more???

I'm really struggling with this. I don't flip to a winter setup, so new tires are an almost annual expense for me.

Yellafella 02-28-2017 01:48 PM

You can run 245/40, 285/35 on the 19s. It's about the same diameter as the stock setup

Yellafella 02-28-2017 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by Lego_Maniac (Post 4113690)
My current PSS are getting thin and need replacing sooner than later.

245/40/19 and 275/35/19 PSS are $1027 shipped from tire rack.

Same sizes in the PS4 would be $1221.

Million dollar question: Are the PS4s worth $194 more???

I'm really struggling with this. I don't flip to a winter setup, so new tires are an almost annual expense for me.

I would say its worth it considering they last a little longer than the PSS

RadioFlyer 02-28-2017 02:28 PM

I was considering the price difference also - in my sizes were around $150 ($1,367 vs $1,219). The way I justified it was: considering how much the total amount is, $150 isn't that significant to me for a better product. And the other way I looked at it was: even if I saved $150, I'd still be paying a lot for tires, so saving $150 doesn't turn them into something cheap.

For me, I was considering the Kumho PS91. They're supposed to be a good tire, not as good as the PS4S, but WAY cheaper. That's almost $700 less. THAT'S a significant savings, $150 not so much. My two cents.

Lego_Maniac 02-28-2017 03:08 PM


Originally Posted by Yellafella (Post 4113719)
You can run 245/40, 285/35 on the 19s. It's about the same diameter as the stock setup

245/275 is closer to stock (26.7" and 26.6") where 285 is 26.9.

You also should have a minimum 9.5" wheel for 285s and the OEM wheel is 9", so it really isn't compatible with the OE 19s.


Originally Posted by Yellafella (Post 4113720)
I would say its worth it considering they last a little longer than the PSS

They are both 300 treadwear and 30,000 warranty (15,000 staggered).

Surfnazi 03-01-2017 05:00 AM

Still like my s04

RadioFlyer 03-08-2017 06:05 PM

So it looks like their delivery estimate was on the conservative side - They arrived today! I got them mounted, and they run wide. So I have a tiny bit of rubbing happening in the rear, and they aren't balanced that well. I'm going to take them in to get rebalanced tomorrow, and I'll need to let them outgas a bit before I give a real review. But they're on!

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.myg...e718c71ae.jpeg

For Reference, those are 275/35/19 (F) and 305/30/19 (R) on 19x9.5 +45/19x10.5 +43

Goonz 03-08-2017 07:33 PM

Man those look meaty!! My Pilot Super Sports just arrived because the 4S were not available in 255/40/19's...as of yet. The 4S are an upgraded PSS so you'll def enjoy these tires


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