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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 06:08 PM
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Rotating tires in 6MT

I will appreciate if folks scan share their experience or advice on whether to rotate tires in 6MT (side to side). My objective is to get the tires to last longer.

Because the rear tires are larger than the front, we cannot rotate front to back. However, it is not clear whether we can rotate left tire to right side and right tire to left side.

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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 06:11 PM
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This is simple. Are your tires directional?

Yes? You cannot rotate them side to side without dismounting the tire and swapping the actual tire to the other wheel.

No? Take the wheels off and swap sides.
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Old Apr 2, 2016 | 06:16 PM
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Stock tires are not directional but are asymmetrical. There's an outside and an inside sidewall. Owner's manual says they can't be rotated period. You can do as indicated above (post #2), or just rotate them side to side without removing from wheel. Rotating them as in post #2 may affect wet weather performance.

I did the latter (side to side rotation without dismount) without any issues several times now. No belt separation or other faults. In fact, this helped get a bit more life out of the rears which were wearing unevenly (excessive toe on one side, excessive camber on other). With an alignment done few months back, i'm hoping new tires will wear evenly. If so then there won't be any rotations.
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Jsolo
Stock tires are not directional but are asymmetrical. There's an outside and an inside sidewall. Owner's manual says they can't be rotated period. You can do as indicated above (post #2), or just rotate them side to side without removing from wheel. Rotating them as in post #2 may affect wet weather performance.

I did the latter (side to side rotation without dismount) without any issues several times now. No belt separation or other faults. In fact, this helped get a bit more life out of the rears which were wearing unevenly (excessive toe on one side, excessive camber on other). With an alignment done few months back, i'm hoping new tires will wear evenly. If so then there won't be any rotations.
Thanks for your replies.

I verified that my tires are not directional, and plan to also rotate side to side.

We got lifetime alignment with Firestone, and align our cars at every oil change. This makes a big difference on tire life. The key is to build relationship with a good shop (not all Firestones shops are reliable)

I am also considering squaring the tires to same size on my 6MT.
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 10:40 AM
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Just be aware that square set ups on RWD will bring oversteer...if that sort of thing matters to you.
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Old Apr 5, 2016 | 10:57 AM
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I love the Square setup on my coupe.

I have 255/40/19 all around.

The added front end traction is very nice. So is the tire life.
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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 09:36 PM
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I have been trying to process VenonGT9's post, which betrays my limited knowledge
VenonGT9, can you Pls clarify what you mean by ever steer if I square the tires.
Thank you
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Old Apr 19, 2016 | 10:56 PM
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Understeer = you turn the steering wheel but the car doesn't turn, keeps going wide in a corner

Oversteer = @ss end of the car wants to come around
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Old Apr 20, 2016 | 09:10 AM
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Wow google is such a resource.
I guess my wording wasn't exactly correct...it doesn't necessarily "cause" oversteer but rather "reduces" the understeer biased stock personality. Depending on your other modifications, you may or may not notice this change but to some it's a world of difference.
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