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Old May 24, 2012 | 06:03 PM
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Winter Tire Options

I'm looking at three options for winter tires next season. My current winter tires are:

Front: 225/45R19
Rear: 245/40R19

I found my current tires (Blizzak LM-60 I believe) subpar and am looking for something with better performance in the snow. These are the three options I am considering (based on what's available in the tire I want):

OPTION 1 (4 x 235/50R18)
I tried the tire size calculator referenced in another thread, and these tires are 1.0% too fast compared to the front stock tires and 2.0% too slow compared to the rear stock tires. Just wanted to confirm that this is within "acceptable" limits? Would an 18 inch tire provide better traction in snow than a 19 inch tire?

OPTION 2 (4 x 245/40R19)
I tried the tire size calculator referenced in another thread, and these tires are 0.9% too fast compared to the front stock tires. Not sure if there is another consideration, noone recommended this option to me. But this way I wouldn't need a new set of mags. I read somewhere that skinnier tires provide better traction, not sure where 245mm falls on that scale.

OPTION 3 (2 x 225/45R19 Blizzak + 2 x 245/40R19 Nokian Hakkapeliita R)
Basically here I would keep my R rated Blizzak LM-60's in the front and put the H rated Nokian's on the rear. The salesperson said never to mix makes of winter tires (the tires have different speed ratings and the treads will likely be different). I read that you should never mix tires on AWD cars (my car is RWD) nor should you mix tires on the same axle. I believe I also read that you shouldn't mix tires with different speed ratings. The only reason I mentioned this option is because I wasn't too keen on spending money for 4 x 18 inch mags on top of the tires, and I wasn't 100% sure that option 2 was viable. I realize that option 3 will likely be highly discouraged, just throwing it out there.

Any suggestions would be most welcome.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 07:28 PM
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Buy my Bridgestone Blizzak LM-25V that's for sale!!!
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Old May 25, 2012 | 02:57 PM
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The problem is you're running a staggered setup for snow tires. You'll want the narrowest width you can get in all the same size. Blizzak LM-60s are a great tire. Don't ever mix winter tires, whether you car is staggered or non-staggered, AWD or RWD. You won't get the traction from your mixed set. I believe the narrowest we can go is 225.

Rim size (18 vs 19) makes little difference as far as snow traction is concerned.
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Old May 25, 2012 | 03:50 PM
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Skinnier tires suppose to be better for driving through snow (less plowing through the snow). Just a quick question. Are you looking specifically for snow traction or ice traction?

I bought my set of winter tires from the dealership running your second options.
I got 4 Toyo observe Garit kx (245/40R19). These are great performance winter tires on ice and snow. RWD is a little hard to get going from stop on ice but stopping/braking is superb. Noise is an issue (little loud).
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Old May 25, 2012 | 05:46 PM
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Thank you. I'm looking mainly for good traction in snow. Blizzak's are great on ice, but I find them to be not so good in snow. OK, so Option 2 is doable, great. Yeah, the Infiniti dealership recommended the Toyo Observe Garit while an independent tire place recommended the Nokian's. I'm sure both are excellent.
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 11:33 AM
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Non-staggered on coupe?

My service guy just called to tell me that on the G37 Coupe the tires are "normally" staggered:

Front: 225/45R19
Rear: 245/40R19

and that he doesn't think I can put 4 x 245/40R19 winter tires. The tire size is OK according to the tire size calculator, but he said the coupe was "designed" to have staggered tires. He said something about a light that might come on in the dashboard (among other things).

BTW, the problem is that Nokian doesn't make any 225/45R19, so that's why I was trying to put 4 x 245/40R19. Does anyone here know anything about the possibility of running non-staggered tired on a G37 coupe RWD? Or better yet, does anyone have a G37 coupe RWD and successfully run 4 x 245/40R19 tires?

***UPDATE: OK, my service guy just called me back and said it was OK for the 4 x 245/40R19 tires

Last edited by handsomep; Oct 1, 2012 at 12:11 PM. Reason: Update
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 12:11 PM
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i ran 245/40s on the stock 19s on my rwd coupe without a problem. the only time you shouldnt run a staggered setup is with awd (and even then, you can get away with small variance in rolling diameter)
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 12:29 PM
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Good to hear, thank you!
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Old Oct 1, 2012 | 12:59 PM
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I love my Blizzaks .... my guess is you will find an overwhelming amount of users really like them. No winter tire will turn the RWD G into a AWD-4WD snow machine.
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Old Oct 2, 2012 | 02:24 PM
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There is an article on P 58 of the November 2012 Consumer Reports that does a pretty good job of comparing and contrasting various types of tires. I usually take their articles with a huge grain of salt, but this was informative.

You might also want to talk to Tire Rack.
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