Need help with wheel fitment
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Need help with wheel fitment
Alright, since the wheels forum was useless except for the one person who answered part of this, I'll ask again here. I'm trying to order my wheels tonight, prob DPE S20's with a step lip since I got a price I liked for them and also if lower offsets are possible without a ton of negative camber. I really want to know what tire sizes I would have to go with 19 or 20's with those offsets cause this is for my dd:
Alright, I'm planning on buying a set of the VIP Modular VXS110 for my '11 G37x Sedan. I have read the threads about tire sizes needing to be similar in order to now throw off the AWD. That is fine, I understand that. Coming from civics this is a new beast I am still learning when it comes to staggered fitments. Currently I am dropping the car on the G35x Sedan Eibach springs but will be swapping those out of the JIC Magic coilovers for the G37x sedans when they come out this summer(i refuse to purchase BC Racing due to hating them on my civic). I also plan to swap out the oem brakes that come with the sedans for the Akebono brakes. Now my questions come are for size and offset.
1) Will 19x9.5 +20 and 19x10.5 +25 sit FLUSH. Don't care of I have to run negative camber (no more than 3 degrees, will swap out camber arms if needed).
2) Will this same setup in a 20 work?
3) If either of these work, what tire sizes would you recommend(dont care if I have to stretch)? I just dont want to be sitting on rubberbands on NJ roads since this state refuses to upkeep them and I DD this car.
4) For winter purposes with the Akebono's, will 18x9.5 +12 be too much (looking at VorrsToen es2.2.1)? I think it will be, just checking. Also looking into Rotiform BLQ's.
I ask all this because the guy at VIP Modular asked me to call and I dont want to be thinking of crazy offsets that are going to be making me run 5 degrees of camber or something crazy like having to cut the fender and go with a metal widebody in the rear.
Here is also pics of the wheels just for reference:
Thanks in advance to anyone that helps.
Also had a chop done with one of Igors photo's
1) Will 19x9.5 +20 and 19x10.5 +25 sit FLUSH. Don't care of I have to run negative camber (no more than 3 degrees, will swap out camber arms if needed).
2) Will this same setup in a 20 work?
3) If either of these work, what tire sizes would you recommend(dont care if I have to stretch)? I just dont want to be sitting on rubberbands on NJ roads since this state refuses to upkeep them and I DD this car.
4) For winter purposes with the Akebono's, will 18x9.5 +12 be too much (looking at VorrsToen es2.2.1)? I think it will be, just checking. Also looking into Rotiform BLQ's.
I ask all this because the guy at VIP Modular asked me to call and I dont want to be thinking of crazy offsets that are going to be making me run 5 degrees of camber or something crazy like having to cut the fender and go with a metal widebody in the rear.
Here is also pics of the wheels just for reference:
Thanks in advance to anyone that helps.
Also had a chop done with one of Igors photo's
Last edited by TeRRoRiFiC35; Apr 21, 2011 at 10:07 AM.
First, let me say, anything can work with enough stretch, poke, pull, negative camber, etc. You will definitely need to stretch the tires with that setup, so your best bet for the x is probably a 225/40/19 and 255/35/19. Those sizes are within 0.2% of each other. I personally think that is too much stretch for 9.5/10.5 wheels, but people do it. You will need to add camber arms front and rear, and probably run a little over -2.5 degrees . If you can handle that, go for it. You could also try 235/40/19 and 265/35/19, but you will need even more negative camber and it will increase your chances of rubbing at even -3 degrees (those sizes have a 0.4% difference in size).
I also think that with a 1" difference in a staggered setup, you need a delta of 10-12mm on the wheels for them to be close to the same F/R (a 10-12mm lower offset on the front). I run a 9"+25/10"+35, and my front wheel is a little more tucked than the rear with both at -2 degrees (I am running 245/35/20 and 275/30/20 tires, and I rub on the front fender liner to give you some perspective on how much stretch and negative camber you will need-- your fronts will be roughly 11mm more aggressive than mine).
I would personally go with slightly higher offsets, and run less camber and less stretched tires, but it does not sound like that is what you are after. As for the 18x9.5" +12 winter setup.... Yeah, I think that is pushing it. I would look for something more in the +22 with stretched tires. With your gobs of negative camber, those should work.
The issue is going to be the front wheels. The rear is easy. The fender is already cut, and you only need to trim the felt fender liner and dial in camber. You are more limited in the front. There is nothing to really trim or roll unless you want to do some pinching of the fender and major modifications (and it sounds like you are trying to avoid this). I don't think you will see a big difference in trying to fit 19 or 20 inch wheels. You just may need to tweek the tire size a little (35/30 profile tires instead).
I also think that with a 1" difference in a staggered setup, you need a delta of 10-12mm on the wheels for them to be close to the same F/R (a 10-12mm lower offset on the front). I run a 9"+25/10"+35, and my front wheel is a little more tucked than the rear with both at -2 degrees (I am running 245/35/20 and 275/30/20 tires, and I rub on the front fender liner to give you some perspective on how much stretch and negative camber you will need-- your fronts will be roughly 11mm more aggressive than mine).
I would personally go with slightly higher offsets, and run less camber and less stretched tires, but it does not sound like that is what you are after. As for the 18x9.5" +12 winter setup.... Yeah, I think that is pushing it. I would look for something more in the +22 with stretched tires. With your gobs of negative camber, those should work.
The issue is going to be the front wheels. The rear is easy. The fender is already cut, and you only need to trim the felt fender liner and dial in camber. You are more limited in the front. There is nothing to really trim or roll unless you want to do some pinching of the fender and major modifications (and it sounds like you are trying to avoid this). I don't think you will see a big difference in trying to fit 19 or 20 inch wheels. You just may need to tweek the tire size a little (35/30 profile tires instead).
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thx a lot for the info. do you think it would be a better choice going with 9.5"+25/10.5"+35? im gonna talk with Sean from DPE tomorrow
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