Are you sure your not thinking of the GT-R?

 

maybe he off the VDC.. cheater!

 

One of my best friends dad's has an athens blue g37s (standard).. my friend took his car out and i was beating him by about half a car length every time we would line up (60 rolls).. and i know hes a good shifter from experience the kid has never even owned an automatic car before.

 

I'd have to disagree.

A Base G vs a Sport G... regardless of tranny, has significantly less unsprung weight.

Brakes + rims + tires.

I'd guesstimate about a 10 lb difference (combined brake rotor, tire, and rim) each corner... 40 lbs of unsprung weight is a significant difference.

Anyone want to weigh everything?

 

Give me a break! 60 rolls?

Listen, the 6MT will absolutely beat the 5AT in a drag, everytime, given a good driver. Period. End of discusion.

The ability of the driver to have greater control over shifting compared to the car having complete control is the difference. All this nonsense of a few pounds due to the different brakes and wheels is ridiculous.

A 5AT can get a 13.7 1/4 mile by torque braking and mashing the gas, but the 6MT has potential to shave a few tenths off with an experienced driver. Do a search, you'll find the drag numbers to prove it.

 

^^^ You sounds like a whiney little female dog

 

You, sir, do not understand the difference between sprung and unsprung mass.

Two equally transmissioned cars, one without and one with the sport packages, with equal drivers, will result in the same outcome every time. The sport will lose in a drag race.

 

NON-S wins because you can downshift brake and perfect redline shift in DS mode while having a McGangBang in your hand.

 

Sure I do. Read my post again. I was implying that the two transmissions are NOT equal. It's a fact that the AT has less whp than a 6MT due to powertrain loss. I'm also suggesting that a 6MT has more driver interaction that can help shave a few tenths off your time.

Now, if we are talking about two 5AT cars head to head, with the same suspension, one car has significantly heavier wheels and or brakes than the other, then you have a good point.

 

I could see in a drag..stock.. but on a track too? The sport would handle better thus better times?

 

That's a pretty bold statement. Have you numbers to back that up? You might want to do a search. On the dynos most 5ATs are within 2 or 3 hp of the 6MTs when tested at the same time under the same conditions. Furthermore most of the drag times by forum subscribers in 5ATs have been right on par with the 6MTs and in many cases more consistent.

YOu can even check the mags- the times are pretty much on par with each other.

 

I agree with you in theory. I can't speak on what the exactweight differences in the cars are however. With that said I remember in the previous generation that the sport rims were generally made to weigh less for its size. The brakes- There isn't too much difference between the size of the two. Head to head experiences have demonstrated to me that there isn't a significant difference in weight between the two.

 

ok pal.. i beat him every time so i dont really care what you say it happened

 

Someone earlier mentioned how the driver makes a big difference....as for me, I have the S trim, and I hate how I can't always get a quick smooth launch. I blame my "skill" as a driver though and not the car. I still haven't found that sweet spot on the clutch and correct amount of gas to give to get that quick smooth launch. Tips?

 

hey KAHBOOM can I call you pal now too?