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Electronic Steering Column Lock (ESCL) - Junk car needed

Old Jan 16, 2023 | 02:13 PM
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Electronic Steering Column Lock (ESCL) - Junk car needed

Does anyone have a 2009 junker that I can have the steering lock ESCL off of? I can show you how to get it off easily. I have attached a PDF of the models and pics of it.
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Old Jan 16, 2023 | 04:59 PM
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$150 on Ebay. Going through the same thing. Got the car running and pulled the fuse for the lock and the car wouldn't shut off. Looking into the BCM next. The Steering lock on my 2010 needs the steering column dropped with the dash to get to the 2 break away bolts, not that easy to remove. Good luck
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Old Jan 17, 2023 | 12:33 PM
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Is that the ECSB unit with the pink wire removed in the installed pigtail?

https://jcarpart.com/products/2007-2...gle%20Shopping
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Old Jan 17, 2023 | 01:54 PM
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That pin with the missing wire (#4) is not used in the first place. That slot is always empty. If there is a wire there on your (OEM) harness it likely does nothing. That circuit does not exist on any of the wiring diagrams.
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Old Jan 17, 2023 | 02:14 PM
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oh, ok, thanks for the update.
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Old Jan 21, 2023 | 09:13 AM
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This is the one I got.
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Old Jan 23, 2023 | 06:26 PM
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Well I got another unit from an 2009 that looked exactly like the unit off my 2010 and it didn't work. I got the $50 emulator off fleabay and that didn't work. Does the key have to be coded to the units or car or ??? WTH do I have to do next?!?

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Old Jan 23, 2023 | 07:20 PM
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You just cut & pasted the same comment in four threads.

Good luck with your problem and all, but quit blasting it all over the forum.
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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 11:12 AM
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The ESCL is plug-and-play. There is no programming/ syncing of the key necessary. I suspect you have a different issue than the ESCL.

Does the '09 ESCL do anything? Does it at least try to lock/ unlock?
Didn't you remove the ESCL fuse?
Are any of the key icons on the cluster illuminate?

At this point I am out of ideas as it seems something else going on especially since the emulator didn't work either.
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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ILM-NC G37S
The ESCL is plug-and-play. There is no programming/ syncing of the key necessary. I suspect you have a different issue than the ESCL.

Does the '09 ESCL do anything? Does it at least try to lock/ unlock?
Didn't you remove the ESCL fuse?
Are any of the key icons on the cluster illuminate?

At this point I am out of ideas as it seems something else going on especially since the emulator didn't work either.
Thanks ILM! I appreciate the reply!
The 09 does nothing. When I removed it, it was in the lock position. It doesn't do anything. It may be bad...
I did not remove the fuse because the car was not able to start.
The yellow key light comes on that is it.
I insert the key in the slot, press the brake, hit start button, nothing.
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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 03:02 PM
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As long as the RED key icon isn't illuminated, there is still hope.

Does the car do the repetitive "4-beeps" when you put the fob into the slot?

On your original ESCL, the pin was fully retraced, yes? And, on the '09, the pin is fully extended?

If it were me, I would take a series of jumper wires and with a good, 12-volt battery, try manually cycling the module(s). Pin 1 gets 12V and pins 5 & 6 get ground. Then, with another 12V jumper, hit pin 3 to lock (extend) the pin and pin 8 to unlock (retract) the pin. In theory, once the pin retracts "fully" only then will the microswtiches be in sync to give the BCM the "OK" signal.

Or, being you now have a spare, take it apart and see if you can get it to work that way:
Either way, I believe that, on either unit, if you can get the pin to firmly and fully retract, the car might respond (at which time you'd pull the fuse BEFORE shutting the car OFF).

As for the emulator, return it if you can. The only thing I can think of why it did not work is perhaps Infiniti-branded units use a different combination of microswitches than the Nissan-branded ones. I just do not know ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'll keep looking...

EDITED TO ADD: Disregard the above suggestion to try cycling the lock manually. This method does not work on these modules. Apparently there is a VAST difference between Infiniti and Nissan-branded ESCL's- they are two entirely different mechanisms and NOT interchangeable as other forums/ threads have suggested.

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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 07:24 PM
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Dude, thank you! You are most helpful! I wish I had read this before I exited LKQ, I could have used the pigtail! I am not ele inclined, hate the stuff. Now I have to get my son and use all four hands! It does make the 4 beeps (only with the door open) and the yellow key light in the Tach flashes when pushing the S/S button and the red key light on the Speedo is flashing. Mine fully retracted and 09 fully extended. I saw that video and disassembled both to see if there is anything I could fool it with like the micro switches. Both are different, see second pic for my original '10. I will be removing the fuse, ready for that!
Do I understand this correctly?



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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 07:45 PM
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Your diagram is correct based on the way I read the FSM and understand how the system (is supposed) to function. I compared both the 2008 and 2011 FSM's and both seem to show that pin 3 extends and pin 8 retracts when 12V applied.

Did you disassemble your original unit? Were there any signs of anything out of the ordinary? If it not too much trouble could you post a pic of the "guts?"

If it were me, I would skip trying to jump the pins and just open up the unit and try turning the worm gear on the motor shaft to move the locking pin from fully extended back to fully retracted. Or apply power directly to the motor (seems like a simple DC motor).

It may sound like I am throwing out pointless ideas but this is how I troubleshoot and at this stage of the game what have you to lose? Plus, at least you have a helper!

EDITED TO ADD: The above suggestion WILL NOT WORK on Infiniti-branded ESCL modules. They apparently utilize a completely different mechanism than the Nissan-branded counterparts.

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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 08:05 PM
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Already did that. You can see they are totally different from the one in the video. I removed the motors from the bases and it's sort of a puzzle to get them out/in. I connected the negative to 5-6 and positive to 1 then used another positive on 8 to retract the extended one and 3 for the retracted one. Each time there was a small spark/small pop/burnt smell. Alternated 3/8 but nothing. Sure sounds like they are paperweights now.

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Old Jan 24, 2023 | 08:13 PM
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I managed to get a screen shot of the video with them both on at the same time. They are flashing independently.
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