'11 AWD sedan front end vibration
'11 AWD sedan front end vibration
Just finished up some maintenance on my 2011:
Front sway bar end link replace (left and right)
Rear diff fluid change
Front diff fluid change
On the maiden voyage, everything was fine up until about 70mph. Then I start to get a vibration in the steering wheel....the steering wheel doesnt SHAKE but you can feel the vibration. The car was driven all winter on my winter wheels with no vibrations, but thinking maybe they were flat-spotted (and its about the time anyway) I changed over to my summer wheels which also never vibrate. But the vibration remains.
Under 70mph the car seems fine. I cant really feel the vibration anywhere else other than the steering wheel so I was thinking SOMETHING up front, but not sure what. Could it be related to the diff fluid change? I used 75W-90 full synthetic (I know the FSM calls for 80W-90 but I wanted to go full synth which Ive only found in 75W-90).
EDIT: some more observations - the frequency of the vibration seems too high to be wheel/tire balance...its more the feeling of going over rumble strips. It happens when on or off the throttle. Once it does start to happen, its not consistent....its like an on again off again thing, but no regular pattern to it (other than 70+mph speed). Did confirm I cant really feel it anywhere other than the steering wheel (felt brake pedal, gas pedal, dash, floor,. console and seat while it was happening but could not feel it in those). The frequency does not seem to change with speed...once the vibration happens it feels the same at all speeds until under 70 when it stops (or I cant feel it anymore)
Thanks in advance.
-Chris
Front sway bar end link replace (left and right)
Rear diff fluid change
Front diff fluid change
On the maiden voyage, everything was fine up until about 70mph. Then I start to get a vibration in the steering wheel....the steering wheel doesnt SHAKE but you can feel the vibration. The car was driven all winter on my winter wheels with no vibrations, but thinking maybe they were flat-spotted (and its about the time anyway) I changed over to my summer wheels which also never vibrate. But the vibration remains.
Under 70mph the car seems fine. I cant really feel the vibration anywhere else other than the steering wheel so I was thinking SOMETHING up front, but not sure what. Could it be related to the diff fluid change? I used 75W-90 full synthetic (I know the FSM calls for 80W-90 but I wanted to go full synth which Ive only found in 75W-90).
EDIT: some more observations - the frequency of the vibration seems too high to be wheel/tire balance...its more the feeling of going over rumble strips. It happens when on or off the throttle. Once it does start to happen, its not consistent....its like an on again off again thing, but no regular pattern to it (other than 70+mph speed). Did confirm I cant really feel it anywhere other than the steering wheel (felt brake pedal, gas pedal, dash, floor,. console and seat while it was happening but could not feel it in those). The frequency does not seem to change with speed...once the vibration happens it feels the same at all speeds until under 70 when it stops (or I cant feel it anymore)
Thanks in advance.
-Chris
Last edited by Chris11LE; Mar 21, 2021 at 03:32 PM.
Wheel bearings are a common issue on AWD sedans. Generally one side goes before the other, so the best way to diagnose is to see if the vibration lessens when turning. if it's only happening at speed they might be in the early stages of failing. Take to the highway late at night so you're not causing a hazard and when you get up to speed and feel the hum, cut one way and then cut to the other, noting if the vibration gets better or worse. You don't need to cut hard, but just enough that the weight transfers off one side to the other. If there's a stretch of highway with some sweeping corners, that is ideal.
If it gets better when cutting left and the weight comes off the left side, it's your left wheel bearing, same applies to the right.
If it gets better when cutting left and the weight comes off the left side, it's your left wheel bearing, same applies to the right.
Last edited by Victory; Mar 22, 2021 at 11:45 AM.
Wheel bearings are a common issue on AWD sedans. Generally one side goes before the other, so the best way to diagnose is to see if the vibration lessens when turning. if it's only happening at speed they might be in the early stages of failing. Take to the highway late at night so you're not causing a hazard and when you get up to speed and feel the hum, cut one way and then cut to the other, noting if the vibration gets better or worse. You don't need to cut hard, but just enough that the weight transfers off one side to the other. If there's a stretch of highway with some sweeping corners, that is ideal.
If it gets better when cutting left and the weight comes off the left side, it's your left wheel bearing, same applies to the right.
If it gets better when cutting left and the weight comes off the left side, it's your left wheel bearing, same applies to the right.
I forgot to note that I have not reinstalled the under-engine plastics yet....I will do so later today and if for some odd reason that makes this all go away, I will have a beer and come back here admitting Im an idiot
Well....its beer time and I must be an idiot!
All I did today was release the sway bar because I needed to lubricate the bushings. Reinstalled the bushings and brackets, then reinstalled the under chassis plastics I removed.
Aaaaaand....no more vibration. Not quite sure which thing fixed it, but at this point Im just happy its fixed.
-Chris
All I did today was release the sway bar because I needed to lubricate the bushings. Reinstalled the bushings and brackets, then reinstalled the under chassis plastics I removed.
Aaaaaand....no more vibration. Not quite sure which thing fixed it, but at this point Im just happy its fixed.
-Chris
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