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Old Feb 16, 2021 | 02:56 PM
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Hi all, I am still relatively new to the platform so I was hoping to hear others feedback with a little problem I have, so here goes... The other day I was driving my 2010 Anniversary sedan and it just felt kind of off to me and after further diagnosis, I realized that not just one, but both of my front shocks had failed. They were coated in oil and I actually had drips of the bright yellow oil. SO I have no doubt that the shocks are the cause of my issue, but my question is... What should I replace to fix it? and what should I replace with?
I loved the ride of the stock sport suspension and don't really want to lower my car much, if at all. The less money I have to spend to fix it, the better as i could then upgrade my exhaust and a couple other odds and ends. As of now, the options that i am considering are: Tein Endurapro plus on all four corners, full set of coilovers, or just replacing the front shocks/struts with autozone-esque parts.
The other aspect to make things even more interesting is that it is equipped with 4was and a lot of options say that they do not work with the 4was (even just front left options say "excluding 4 wheel steering).
Any and all advice is appreciated, thank you
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Old Feb 16, 2021 | 07:38 PM
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I'd suggest upgrading all four of your G dampers to high quality parts from Koni or Bilstein. Coilovers won't really help you and a set of OEM style shocks isn't an upgrade.
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Old Feb 16, 2021 | 07:46 PM
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I like my Enduarpro Plus a lot. If you can find them, I'd recommend them.

KYB seems to be tried and trusted...and they're ridiculously inexpensive. However, I don't think they're listed as being compatible with the Sport model. So...the ride may not be like the original. They look like they're a Journey replacement.

It appears you'd need to buy new Infinti Genuine shocks if you want a 100% original ride.

I'm with you that the stock sport suspension is the sweet spot for this car.

To really improve on it, I think you're probably into a nice set of coilovers ($1400+) and a lot of dialing in.


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Old Feb 16, 2021 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by dkmura
I'd suggest upgrading all four of your G dampers to high quality parts from Koni or Bilstein. Coilovers won't really help you and a set of OEM style shocks isn't an upgrade.
I understand that going with Koni or Bilstein is the safest (and more expensive) option to properly have a good ride, but I just cannot see the benefit for going with one of them vs the Tein for less then half the cost. Also, I would like to hear your reasoning for saying that coilovers won't help because i always viewed them as overkill for most applications... I am not necessarily trying to upgrade anything as leaving it stock would have been perfect but i do need to replace the shocks at least.

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I like my Enduarpro Plus a lot. If you can find them, I'd recommend them.

KYB seems to be tried and trusted...and they're ridiculously inexpensive. However, I don't think they're listed as being compatible with the Sport model. So...the ride may not be like the original. They look like they're a Journey replacement.

It appears you'd need to buy new Infinti Genuine shocks if you want a 100% original ride.

I'm with you that the stock sport suspension is the sweet spot for this car.

To really improve on it, I think you're probably into a nice set of coilovers ($1400+) and a lot of dialing in.
That is kind of what i was thinking as well... if only infiniti parts were as easy to come by as buying parts from a subaru dealership (best parts system ive seen yet).
Do you know how many clicks from full hard/soft you have yours set up and if you ever get a harsh ride over bumps. Where i live has pretty smooth roads but i always manage to find bumps and potholes when i go into the city.
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Old Feb 16, 2021 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by IhaveREDseats
I understand that going with Koni or Bilstein is the safest (and more expensive) option to properly have a good ride, but I just cannot see the benefit for going with one of them vs the Tein for less then half the cost. Also, I would like to hear your reasoning for saying that coilovers won't help because i always viewed them as overkill for most applications... I am not necessarily trying to upgrade anything as leaving it stock would have been perfect but i do need to replace the shocks at least.


That is kind of what i was thinking as well... if only infiniti parts were as easy to come by as buying parts from a subaru dealership (best parts system ive seen yet).
Do you know how many clicks from full hard/soft you have yours set up and if you ever get a harsh ride over bumps. Where i live has pretty smooth roads but i always manage to find bumps and potholes when i go into the city.
Stiff is 0. Soft is -16. So you get 16 clicks. Don't turn back more than 16 from full stiff or it can damage the damper. No idea why tf Tein allows more than 16 clicks back...but...they always do.

Anyway...I have mine set at -7 clicks front and -9 clicks in back.

They ride virtually the same as stock in that configuration. The hydraulic bumpstop being the only differentiation. I really like how the motion slows down when you hit a big dip. But...inevitably, a REALLY big bump might feel a *little* more jarring.

Where are you located?

I live in the Chicago area. Its pretty bumpy here in spring and summer when the roads expand and buckle and all the spring time potholes pop up. Admittedly, I put mine on in fall, so I've only experienced the partial wrath. But pretty good overall wrath.

But...chances are, if you live anywhere measurably south of here, your roads are totally fine.

I will probably need to drive my G next week. I've been curious to see how -1 feels...like...if it's way stiff or something. I doubt it will be. But I'll try it with the front shocks and let you know.

You need to remove the rear shock to change the damping. So...I'm not doing that.

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Old Feb 17, 2021 | 12:05 AM
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Originally Posted by IhaveREDseats
I understand that going with Koni or Bilstein is the safest (and more expensive) option to properly have a good ride, but I just cannot see the benefit for going with one of them vs the Tein for less then half the cost. Also, I would like to hear your reasoning for saying that coilovers won't help because i always viewed them as overkill for most applications... I am not necessarily trying to upgrade anything as leaving it stock would have been perfect but i do need to replace the shocks at least.
The problem with coilovers is that you don't need them for track performance. I agree they are overkill in most cases. OEM style shocks like a Koni Sport or Bilstein B9 usually offer a limited amount of adjustment (primarily for rebound only) and you don't need to reset the alignment every time the car is raised or lowered. They are not hugely expensive (no double or triple adjustable models needed), but they are well-built and the Konis had a lifetime warranty last time I checked.

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Old Feb 17, 2021 | 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Hugh Jorgens
Stiff is 0. Soft is -16. So you get 16 clicks. Don't turn back more than 16 from full stiff or it can damage the damper. No idea why tf Tein allows more than 16 clicks back...but...they always do.

Anyway...I have mine set at -7 clicks front and -9 clicks in back.

They ride virtually the same as stock in that configuration. The hydraulic bumpstop being the only differentiation. I really like how the motion slows down when you hit a big dip. But...inevitably, a REALLY big bump might feel a *little* more jarring.

Where are you located?

I live in the Chicago area. Its pretty bumpy here in spring and summer when the roads expand and buckle and all the spring time potholes pop up. Admittedly, I put mine on in fall, so I've only experienced the partial wrath. But pretty good overall wrath.

But...chances are, if you live anywhere measurably south of here, your roads are totally fine.

I will probably need to drive my G next week. I've been curious to see how -1 feels...like...if it's way stiff or something. I doubt it will be. But I'll try it with the front shocks and let you know.

You need to remove the rear shock to change the damping. So...I'm not doing that.
That is super weird that they wouldn't limit the 16 clicks but hey, if thats where they had to cut corners to keep the price down, then so be it. but thats promising that you prefer the middle range because im sure thats more where i would want to keep it but that i have plenty of room to move either way.
Regarding the adjustments of the rear, i read that you should be able to get it by removing the back seat (i think, it was a little while ago) or that people lifted up the rear and with the wheel hanging down, they had just enough room to get the hex key in there.
But i live in southern nevada so dry, smooth roads damn near year round.
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Old Feb 17, 2021 | 01:06 AM
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The problem with coilovers is that you don't need them for track performance. I agree they are overkill in most cases. OEM style shocks like a Koni Sport or Bilstein B9 usually offer a limited amount of adjustment (primarily for rebound only) and you don't need to reset the alignment every time the car is raised or lowered. They are not hugely expensive (no double or triple adjustable models needed), but they are well-built and the Konis had a lifetime warranty last time I checked.
the only Konis that i've seen for this car are from $1000-1200, but i agree with all of that... that's why im thinking the Tein Endurapro Plus (which is just the shocks F/R) for $600 shipped to my door from Z1. I didn't know if there was any particular reason why spending so much more would be worth it... although the lifetime warrantee is amazing, i dont really plan on owning the car for more than like 5-10 years
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Old Feb 17, 2021 | 09:49 AM
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Koni's are $1200 and they are stated to fit the coupe.

Bilstein only sells a B16 coilover for this car. It has some limitations. Bilstein is hit or miss for Japanese cars.

Coilovers have HUGE advantages over something like Koni and a lowering spring. But you'd need to shop very smart and be good with setup. They're a powerful tool. Most people use about 10% of their ability...and sometimes it doesn't turn out that great.

If you don't want to lower the car...yeah...just use the Endurapro/Endurapro Plus, or some other good replacement shocks.
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Old Feb 22, 2021 | 12:53 AM
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i have bilsten pss10 that have been sitting in basement for 3yrs. they offer pretty much a stock ride. the plus for me was that it was a stock ride. And it was the highest height adjustable at the time. The KW are excellent but ride very very low. if you are interested I would be willing to let them go at 500. nothing is wrong with them. I opted to go diff route.
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Old Feb 23, 2021 | 08:19 AM
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Depends on the price you want to pay. If you DONT have much to spend, I cant stress enough how good KYB are. They are ~ 10% stiffer than stock. You wont be disappointed. I've since put them on my G37 coupe as well as my 93 300ZX. Cant beat the price. You wont feel much of a difference between a $500 set of shocks and these KYBs.
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Old Feb 24, 2021 | 10:46 AM
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Hello there, I have red seats as well.
Im in the same predicament as you with my AE and the more and more I search it looks like I'll be aiming for 370z shocks.
The AE suspension is "sport trim" physically. The Z shocks seems to be the best for the money, as far as the springs go, I really enjoy the OEM ones just wished they weren't blown as well.
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