Advice G37 2012
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As Rochester said, avoid the CPO's and go with the sports package! If you're trying to save a couple bucks, buy from a private seller and have him report a lower sale price to minimize taxes. As always, make sure you get a thorough PPI.
In retrospect, I wouldn't have minded getting an Altima Coupe since it's similar to the G37 (on the surface level). However, the Altima leaves much to be desired once you step inside when you've experienced a G. Not to mention they're known to have rusting issues under the floor mats
In retrospect, I wouldn't have minded getting an Altima Coupe since it's similar to the G37 (on the surface level). However, the Altima leaves much to be desired once you step inside when you've experienced a G. Not to mention they're known to have rusting issues under the floor mats
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Are CPOs really that bad of a deal? Cause they do offer warranty for I think up to 100,000 miles and additioned 4 years I think if I remember correctly. Even if it costs a 1k or 2k extra for that as opposed to individual sale, isnt there a better peace of mind?... and I'm asking this because you guys probably have better experience with infiiti's warranty service. Are they good or will they try to run away if something goes wrong with some fine print stuff written on the warranty statement
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Better yet check out the website i showed you. They are located in Grand Prairie TX.
They have 2 G37S in stock.
Avoid the all wheel drive S "G37xS" it is a fake sport model with no true performance sport upgrades like the bigger brakes or vlsd.
If you get a sport model go for the RWD.
Www.vroom.com
Are CPOs really that bad of a deal? Cause they do offer warranty for I think up to 100,000 miles and additioned 4 years I think if I remember correctly. Even if it costs a 1k or 2k extra for that as opposed to individual sale, isnt there a better peace of mind?... and I'm asking this because you guys probably have better experience with infiiti's warranty service. Are they good or will they try to run away if something goes wrong with some fine print stuff written on the warranty statement
So... yes and no. Is there value? Yes, it's worth the cost of a couple years extended warranty. Most insurance is a scam, except for the statistically slim few who benefit. Kind of like the lottery, but not like vaccinations, LOL.
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However, if you're going to run to the dealership every time there's a problem, please see all the negative reviews of Infiniti customer service. You'll be spending time (which is more valuable) AND money for this "insurance." I'm not going to say that all dealerships are going to ignore your issues, but I'd rather rely on myself, a mechanic, and the plethora of knowledgeable forum members for repairs and information.
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CPO is NOT B2B, it does not cover any interior parts, electronics (this includes the wiring harness) or body. It is only an expanded power train with most moving parts covered (except struts and strut braces.)
What is nice is there use to be a $50 deductible for each visit, which has been removed this year.
Thats not to say it is bad, but it wont covers things like a rattling dash board...
This is what is not covered:
● Any component of an electrically powered vehicle—i.e., any
vehicle whose propulsion is provided by an electric motor
and/or power source—is not eligible for and is not covered
by this Warranty.
● Paint, exhaust system, carpet, glass, upholstery, soft trim,
weatherstripping, convertible soft top, moldings, bright metal,
fabric and liner, clutch disc, pressure plate and throw out
bearing (manual transmission), audio system components,
battery and cables, lenses and bulbs, belts and hoses, tires,
brake drums, disc brake rotors, wheels, shock absorber(s),
strut inserts, squeaks, rattles, water leaks, wind noise,
constant velocity boots, immobilizer key, remote keyless entry
switch assembly, mobile entertainment systems, navigational
system components, and any and all in-vehicle
communication systems.
the fact that they dont cover the exhaust or cv boots is kinda FU in my opinion.
In response to above, saying the CPO is more or less worthless because its a way for the dealership to make money is like saying any insurance or warranty is worthless....that is until you need it. You may as well not buy anything that someone makes a profit on as as clearly its a ripoff /sarcasm. There will always be a gamble on these things, that how life works and how the warranty and insurance can exist in the first place. If they didnt make a profit on them, they wouldnt exist, pure and simple. That doesnt make them evil or bad, my saab 95 blew threw a steering rack 6 months after i bought it. Thank goodness it was CPO and was covered as it would have been a $1200 job otherwise.
On your point about bad infiniti dealerships, not many people have a choice to go anywhere else. Its going to cost you time irregardless if you have a breakdown that needs repair, thats just how it works. Id rather spend some of my time getting the dealership to fix an issue then to pay for that issue.
With any "gamble" like a warranty, there will be winners that use it far and above what the cost was, and there will be "losers" who never use it once. The price attached to it is the median between these two with a little more for profit over the average cost of repairs per cpo vehicle.
I say this, unless you can do your own work or have great connections with shops that can not only do the work but will help you with price, then it is worth it. Obviously, this is not the case for many people, thus, the warranty is there.
Mind you, the CPO is $900 tacted on, not really that much (less then 5% of the total cost) The best advice is to find a car with the original warranty still intact. Buy it from a privet seller for a good price, get it inspect at infiniti for like $125, then buy the full extended warranty for $1100-1400, which gives you full B2B coverage.
What is nice is there use to be a $50 deductible for each visit, which has been removed this year.
Thats not to say it is bad, but it wont covers things like a rattling dash board...
This is what is not covered:
● Any component of an electrically powered vehicle—i.e., any
vehicle whose propulsion is provided by an electric motor
and/or power source—is not eligible for and is not covered
by this Warranty.
● Paint, exhaust system, carpet, glass, upholstery, soft trim,
weatherstripping, convertible soft top, moldings, bright metal,
fabric and liner, clutch disc, pressure plate and throw out
bearing (manual transmission), audio system components,
battery and cables, lenses and bulbs, belts and hoses, tires,
brake drums, disc brake rotors, wheels, shock absorber(s),
strut inserts, squeaks, rattles, water leaks, wind noise,
constant velocity boots, immobilizer key, remote keyless entry
switch assembly, mobile entertainment systems, navigational
system components, and any and all in-vehicle
communication systems.
the fact that they dont cover the exhaust or cv boots is kinda FU in my opinion.
In response to above, saying the CPO is more or less worthless because its a way for the dealership to make money is like saying any insurance or warranty is worthless....that is until you need it. You may as well not buy anything that someone makes a profit on as as clearly its a ripoff /sarcasm. There will always be a gamble on these things, that how life works and how the warranty and insurance can exist in the first place. If they didnt make a profit on them, they wouldnt exist, pure and simple. That doesnt make them evil or bad, my saab 95 blew threw a steering rack 6 months after i bought it. Thank goodness it was CPO and was covered as it would have been a $1200 job otherwise.
On your point about bad infiniti dealerships, not many people have a choice to go anywhere else. Its going to cost you time irregardless if you have a breakdown that needs repair, thats just how it works. Id rather spend some of my time getting the dealership to fix an issue then to pay for that issue.
With any "gamble" like a warranty, there will be winners that use it far and above what the cost was, and there will be "losers" who never use it once. The price attached to it is the median between these two with a little more for profit over the average cost of repairs per cpo vehicle.
I say this, unless you can do your own work or have great connections with shops that can not only do the work but will help you with price, then it is worth it. Obviously, this is not the case for many people, thus, the warranty is there.
Mind you, the CPO is $900 tacted on, not really that much (less then 5% of the total cost) The best advice is to find a car with the original warranty still intact. Buy it from a privet seller for a good price, get it inspect at infiniti for like $125, then buy the full extended warranty for $1100-1400, which gives you full B2B coverage.
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I see. But I will be financing most of the amount. Will buying from a dealer give me a better chance of approval/APR ? .. I dont know how it works when you buy from individuals.
And the guy at the dealership said they offer 6 years and unlimited mileage or something B2B warranty on CPO cars. I dunno if I heard that wrong or there is some fine print with that.
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How was the experience shopping at Vroom? Were they reliable? They have good coupe that kind of fits my budget and they claim on the website it has manufacturer warranty still. Did they give you a good price for your trade-in?
And the guy at the dealership said they offer 6 years and unlimited mileage or something B2B warranty on CPO cars. I dunno if I heard that wrong or there is some fine print with that.
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How was the experience shopping at Vroom? Were they reliable? They have good coupe that kind of fits my budget and they claim on the website it has manufacturer warranty still. Did they give you a good price for your trade-in?
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If you buy from a private seller, you would go to your bank for the loan. What % apr (which is just interest plus any fees for the loan) they give you will depend on your credit as well as whether you are approved or not. You wont get those special "12 month 0% apr" from the bank as you may from a dealer, but the value of that would be usually under $1000 on a $25000 loan (which is a very high %).
CPO is all on infiniti: infiniti cpo
The original warranty starts the day the car was driven off the lot of the initial buyer. You can see this date on the carfax or sellers history report. The warranty is 48 months from that date. It will be rare for a 2012 to have its first day driven off the lot anytime after march/april 2012 as 2013's were for sale by then. My 2012's original warranty ended back in march of this year. Most 2012's i was looking at were bought in 2011 and thus, the warranty ended in 2015.
If this is your first car purchase, just realize the most important thing is to get the car inspected by a trusted mechanic before you buy it. Doesnt matter if its a private seller or a CPO from the dealer, pay the cash to get it inspected so you know what you're spending 20k+ on. If the seller even begins to give you a hard time about it, walk away. There is clearly something to hide if they even roll their eyes once.
CPO is all on infiniti: infiniti cpo
The original warranty starts the day the car was driven off the lot of the initial buyer. You can see this date on the carfax or sellers history report. The warranty is 48 months from that date. It will be rare for a 2012 to have its first day driven off the lot anytime after march/april 2012 as 2013's were for sale by then. My 2012's original warranty ended back in march of this year. Most 2012's i was looking at were bought in 2011 and thus, the warranty ended in 2015.
If this is your first car purchase, just realize the most important thing is to get the car inspected by a trusted mechanic before you buy it. Doesnt matter if its a private seller or a CPO from the dealer, pay the cash to get it inspected so you know what you're spending 20k+ on. If the seller even begins to give you a hard time about it, walk away. There is clearly something to hide if they even roll their eyes once.
sr2002 ... congrats on the engineering degree! my friend with his Cayman S is a mechanical engineer, honestly if that is your goal, you should possibly look into them if you can drive a manual. His car has been outstanding and has owned it for a year and half. 0 problems and only replaced brakes and an oil change. Something to think about. However its your main goal that we need to know in order to help you the most.
You want a reliable, fun, sports sedan with a manual and a great price?
- a G sedan is perfect for you.
A fun luxury sports car?
- I'd look into a G coupe, Cayman S if you want to be risky, or a C6 vette if you want the fun and power for the price.
A long term fun, reliable, high used value car?
- As much as I love the G, Lexus IS350s will have higher resale value.
At the end of the day, I still vote selling your car outright and buying a G sport sedan from classifieds and have your bank finance the difference. You will get the most luxury, fun, and bang for your buck in one package. Gs are very reliable and for most of us its all maintenance costs as ownership. You get the rare expensive problems but you will have that with many cars.
What is the main three things you want from your next car? Answer that and we will all be able to help with even more.
Good luck and congrats young sir!
You want a reliable, fun, sports sedan with a manual and a great price?
- a G sedan is perfect for you.
A fun luxury sports car?
- I'd look into a G coupe, Cayman S if you want to be risky, or a C6 vette if you want the fun and power for the price.
A long term fun, reliable, high used value car?
- As much as I love the G, Lexus IS350s will have higher resale value.
At the end of the day, I still vote selling your car outright and buying a G sport sedan from classifieds and have your bank finance the difference. You will get the most luxury, fun, and bang for your buck in one package. Gs are very reliable and for most of us its all maintenance costs as ownership. You get the rare expensive problems but you will have that with many cars.
What is the main three things you want from your next car? Answer that and we will all be able to help with even more.
Good luck and congrats young sir!
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Thanks mkhlmnn.
Based on what I have read so far, it seems all the German cars seem to have a higher cost of maintenance as compared to Lexus/infiniti. For example my uncle owns a 2004 BMW 530i and he was telling me that even the wiper blade on that is proprietary Bosch part and is 100$ + each or something lol .. so even the regular wear and tear will set me back significant amount of money with german cars it seems.
But again I don't know about Porsche that much so I'll have to see.
I personally like the Carrera better than the Cayman but there is no way I can afford one at this point of time. With the Cayman its a strict two seater. Where as the G37 would be more of a dual personality .. kind of like the M3, except with a smaller engine.
For my budget, I dont see a better option than the G37 Coupe, I looked for IS350 but did not find a single listing that was lower than 30K$ with equivalent age/mileage as a G37. Seems the G37s depreciate faster than the lexus.
I personally do like the G37 don't get me wrong, but I also see that most of you guys also know cons of owning one, or may have thought of better alternatives in the process.
I will be going to test drive a 2013 G37S coupe with 20k miles tomorrow, they are selling it for 26k$ certified preowned.
The second one I'll be looking at is a 2014 Q60 with 22k miles selling at 25K$.
And then there are a couple of 2015 Q40s with 13k miles but they were corporate fleet cars .. so I don't know if that would be a good idea.
Since you mentioned, I will look again into the Porsches and the IS350.
Based on what I have read so far, it seems all the German cars seem to have a higher cost of maintenance as compared to Lexus/infiniti. For example my uncle owns a 2004 BMW 530i and he was telling me that even the wiper blade on that is proprietary Bosch part and is 100$ + each or something lol .. so even the regular wear and tear will set me back significant amount of money with german cars it seems.
But again I don't know about Porsche that much so I'll have to see.
I personally like the Carrera better than the Cayman but there is no way I can afford one at this point of time. With the Cayman its a strict two seater. Where as the G37 would be more of a dual personality .. kind of like the M3, except with a smaller engine.
For my budget, I dont see a better option than the G37 Coupe, I looked for IS350 but did not find a single listing that was lower than 30K$ with equivalent age/mileage as a G37. Seems the G37s depreciate faster than the lexus.
I personally do like the G37 don't get me wrong, but I also see that most of you guys also know cons of owning one, or may have thought of better alternatives in the process.
I will be going to test drive a 2013 G37S coupe with 20k miles tomorrow, they are selling it for 26k$ certified preowned.
The second one I'll be looking at is a 2014 Q60 with 22k miles selling at 25K$.
And then there are a couple of 2015 Q40s with 13k miles but they were corporate fleet cars .. so I don't know if that would be a good idea.
Since you mentioned, I will look again into the Porsches and the IS350.
Anytime I've driven the Cayman S and C6 many times back to back with my G, anything you want to know id be more than happy to give you a review. I personally love the 911s but at the end of the day after my tests unless you're getting a carrera s or above with the manual the cayman s is the better choice overall.
Now to help out more, we need more info.
Do you want a sedan or coupe?
Does space make a difference to you, aka passengers and excess cabin room?
Are you wanting to save money on the car, maintenance, or both?
Have you looked into 370zs? You can get some very nice optioned models.
What means most to you at the end of the day will help decide what you want.
Hit me with a budget price, what you must have, and how long plan to keep your car and I will help as best as I can. I did the Enterprise Management program and luckily have driven everything under the sun plus the cars ive been lucky enough to drive.
All of that said, I still love hopping in my G every single day; minus two things.
1) A manual transmission
2) Much more torque and hp *personally* ( I get to drive a C6 6.2 on a monthly basis and wish I had the extra 130hp and more tq)
Our cars still have many options for things like this, where you can buy a manual and swap rear gears to help with said problems above.
but if you arent planning on spending that in mods or keeping your car long, there maybe better options for you.
Now to help out more, we need more info.
Do you want a sedan or coupe?
Does space make a difference to you, aka passengers and excess cabin room?
Are you wanting to save money on the car, maintenance, or both?
Have you looked into 370zs? You can get some very nice optioned models.
What means most to you at the end of the day will help decide what you want.
Hit me with a budget price, what you must have, and how long plan to keep your car and I will help as best as I can. I did the Enterprise Management program and luckily have driven everything under the sun plus the cars ive been lucky enough to drive.
All of that said, I still love hopping in my G every single day; minus two things.
1) A manual transmission
2) Much more torque and hp *personally* ( I get to drive a C6 6.2 on a monthly basis and wish I had the extra 130hp and more tq)
Our cars still have many options for things like this, where you can buy a manual and swap rear gears to help with said problems above.
but if you arent planning on spending that in mods or keeping your car long, there maybe better options for you.
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I'm kind of in a confused state of mind right now. This will be my first car that I will be paying for myself lol.
So here is what I think I am looking for:
1) Good engine
2) Exclusivity
3) Luxury -- unless its a porsche or something
4) Decent resale value (I might sell in a couple of years and get something else)
5) Longevity (I might not sell and instead keep it)
As far as the actual car:
1) Prefer Automatic transmission (I've driven stick shift for a long time, prefer auto now)
2) Leather interiors
3) Atleast 300HP or more
4) Sedan/Coupe doesnt really matter
My budget was originally 20k$ I was planing to tradin + cash down combined of 5k$ and finance 15k$. But now I'm willing to finance 20-22k$ + 5k$ for my tradin/cash down.
I would prefer something newer than 2013:
1) atleast 2 year warranty left
2) less than 40k Miles
3) Single owner
4) Reasonable maintenance costs
I know I probably sound all over the place. But I would love to hear some good words of advice
So here is what I think I am looking for:
1) Good engine
2) Exclusivity
3) Luxury -- unless its a porsche or something
4) Decent resale value (I might sell in a couple of years and get something else)
5) Longevity (I might not sell and instead keep it)
As far as the actual car:
1) Prefer Automatic transmission (I've driven stick shift for a long time, prefer auto now)
2) Leather interiors
3) Atleast 300HP or more
4) Sedan/Coupe doesnt really matter
My budget was originally 20k$ I was planing to tradin + cash down combined of 5k$ and finance 15k$. But now I'm willing to finance 20-22k$ + 5k$ for my tradin/cash down.
I would prefer something newer than 2013:
1) atleast 2 year warranty left
2) less than 40k Miles
3) Single owner
4) Reasonable maintenance costs
I know I probably sound all over the place. But I would love to hear some good words of advice
Well you are in great hands then because the G sedan will be perfect for you! Make sure to get the sport package (helps with resale, exclusivity, paddles, and VSLD if you get rwd) and you will get exactly what you are looking for!
A)Gs are a bargain for entry level luxury cars
B)They are extremely fun to drive
C)They are cost effective to own and maintain (you can take it to a Nissan dealer for maintenance and they will charge you less for the same thing at the end of the day; trial and error have done this many times between dealers)
D)With the know-how and willingness and can do much of the maintenance on your own (Oil changes, tire rotations and wheel swaps, cabin-air filter, air filter change and/or cleaning)
Our cars are relativity easy to own and maintain and as far as driving is considered my personal experience the G will be your best bet.
A)Gs are a bargain for entry level luxury cars
B)They are extremely fun to drive
C)They are cost effective to own and maintain (you can take it to a Nissan dealer for maintenance and they will charge you less for the same thing at the end of the day; trial and error have done this many times between dealers)
D)With the know-how and willingness and can do much of the maintenance on your own (Oil changes, tire rotations and wheel swaps, cabin-air filter, air filter change and/or cleaning)
Our cars are relativity easy to own and maintain and as far as driving is considered my personal experience the G will be your best bet.
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Thats perfect! Yea, I kinda always liked the G35 Coupe, G37 looks pretty much the same, kinda timeless.
I will update you guys tomorrow, I'll be hitting up a bunch of showrooms tomorrow for test driving the cars. I'll post pictures, specs and prices.
If anyone from the Dallas area is free tomorrow please let me know, I could use a knowledgable person for a second look. Also, if any of you have suggestions for good mechanics in the Dallas area for me to get the car inspected, please let me know
I will update you guys tomorrow, I'll be hitting up a bunch of showrooms tomorrow for test driving the cars. I'll post pictures, specs and prices.
If anyone from the Dallas area is free tomorrow please let me know, I could use a knowledgable person for a second look. Also, if any of you have suggestions for good mechanics in the Dallas area for me to get the car inspected, please let me know
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So as an update. I saw there are some 2015 Q40s with about 10k miles on them for about 27k$ and a 2014 Q50 for about 28k$.
How would you rate those to the 2013 G37S which is basically the same price but with about 30k miles on it? Is there any advantage to buying a 2015 Q40 or 2014 Q50 ? They seem to have identical engines. Were any issues fixed on the Q40 for 2015? Will it have better resale value and warranty I'm assuming since its 2015?
How would you rate those to the 2013 G37S which is basically the same price but with about 30k miles on it? Is there any advantage to buying a 2015 Q40 or 2014 Q50 ? They seem to have identical engines. Were any issues fixed on the Q40 for 2015? Will it have better resale value and warranty I'm assuming since its 2015?
