Dgglr

yeah basically, but my idea was to have a manual gearbox but the controls are electronic, mimicking the feel of a 6MT in both the shifter as well as the clutch

g37guy01

I think it's way to much trouble to design an electronic feedback induced shifter that has the same feel as a manual that is actually connected via a physical linkage to a transmission.

Shift

Did Lexus get rid of the 6mt on the new IS? I saw this mentioned in an article i read

kanariya

I don't get it. you complain about the 3 being big. but the g37 and new Q are even bigger in dimensions.

my f30 is smaller in dimensions than my G but it is roomier than my G both front and back seats. and the folding seats that I wished the G could have for years.

I have the f30 xdrive which supposed to have the softest suspension among all the trims. I find it to be a better ride than my g37x, which isn't exactly what u can call a firm sport suspension.

whenever I turn up the sport mode in my f30, it reminds me what I didn't like about the G. the torque off the line and the quick shifts. I actually like the electronic steering. it gives me effortless turns in city with comfort mode and good old steering feel with sport mode. the only thing lacking is the engine and exhaust sound. but the g sedan was quiet as hell anyways unlike the coupé and fx.

00Max00

^^ No, you didn't get it. I have made no complaints, just to use the numbers showing the trend that the companies are further away from making a better driver's car. That's not too good for us driving enthusiasts, but good if you haul your in-laws around.

Looked up Edmund for interior measurement, not sure why the G37 has more detailed specs than F30. With available numbers, the G37 is roomier than F30 actually despite all the shortcut BMW took.

G37:
FRONT HEAD ROOM 40.5 in. FRONT HIP ROOM 55.1 in.
FRONT LEG ROOM 43.9 in. FRONT SHOULDER ROOM 55.6 in.
REAR HIP ROOM 53.7 in. REAR HEAD ROOM 37.7 in.
REAR LEG ROOM 34.7 in. REAR SHOULDER ROOM 55.2 in.

F30:
FRONT HEAD ROOM 40.3 in. FRONT SHOULDER ROOM 55.1 in.
REAR HEAD ROOM 37.3 in. REAR SHOULDER ROOM 55.1 in.

F30 may FEEL roomier it has lower beltline, and smaller engine, MacPherson fronts, it is wider, and no spear tires, the cheap trunk lid supports may save same space too. But I don't want any of these in my G37. So for me at least, the G37 is a better car, your miles may vary.

trey100

That was my point. The f30 is still smaller than the G nevermind the new Q. If you were happy with G size-wise then the F30 would be an improvement. Either way I've owned an E90 335 and have driven both the f30 328 and 335. All nice cars if you like the styling. Sporty enough for street driving. But to each his own.

volnedan

Why are people disputing the preference of a manual transmission? Its like when you say "Hey, I like Coke better than Pepsi", and the waitress says "No you don't. You don't know what you like. You THINK you like Coke, but I'm bringing you a Pepsi"

It could be very easy for me to say all people who drive automatics are lazy and not as good drivers, but it's not accurate to stereotype. Jeez, you guys sound like a car salesman trying to push the 7AT model over the MT model because he doesn't want to do a dealer trade.

It's a fact that some people will only buy cars offered in a manual transmission, and I'm one of them. Unfortunately for me, Infiniti is a business and doesn't care to cater to the 1% of enthusiast buyers who choose the 6MT. I'm sure Infiniti won't miss the my lost sale, but I will sure miss Infiniti.

kanariya

My passengers are way happier in the rear seats of the F30 than the G.
Numbers on paper don't tell the whole story. The rear leg room makes whole lot of difference.

The G was supposed to be hell lot faster than my 245hp 328i on paper.
But not really in reality.

rpm&my_G35

Did you miss the part where Infiniti strongly hinted that the 6MT Q50 will be manufactured. Don't give up on them yet

volnedan

Yes I know they will eventually come out with a 6MT, but I took advantage of the 18 month lease on my current sedan to specifically get into the 2014 model when my lease is up. That's the only reason Infiniti offered the 18 month lease program at that specific timing.

Infiniti has done this before. Back in September of 2006, I leased an 06 G35 coupe for 12 months because the 2008 G37 coupe was launching at the end of my lease term. Back then it worked out perfect: I used supplier discount, Infiniti lease loyalty, and leveraged buying a RWD manual coupe in December (Which don't sell very well in the Midwest).

So because Infiniti crapped their pants at launch by not offering a 6MT or the turbo-4 powertrain like EVERY SINGLE COMPETITOR (BMW, Audi, Cadillac), I will be forced to lease another vehicle when my current sedan needs to be turned in.

rpm&my_G35

^ could you not extend the lease you have?

volnedan

^Unless Infiniti changed their rules, you can only extend lease by 3 months. That's what I actually did when I did the 12 month lease on my 2006 coupe; the G37s were not on the lot until November so I extended it by 3 months.

madmax2k1

I think this is the placebo effect of the Blue and White propeller badge on the hood F30.

The only F30 I would fathom owning is the 335i 6MT with the M Sport package, anything less than that is for pretenders.

00Max00

G37's main advantage is at 50+ mph. This is perfectly normal for a high rev NA engine.

00Max00

More like a 6MT Q60.