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Old 03-31-2010, 06:48 PM
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Do you save money when bringing your own oil?
Old 03-31-2010, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by TinsleyC
I went with Pennzoil Ultra, but after reading the Pennzoil Ultra FAQ on the BITOG website, I'm not sure the Ultra contains esters, or even needs them. "To ester" or "not to ester" has me confused.

What it says:

14. Has Pennzoil<SUP>®</SUP> incorporated any type of Esters into the base oil blend for Pennzoil Ultra™?

No ester base oils were used or are required in the Pennzoil Ultra™ range.
Confusing indeed. This was covered in another thread on here and includes a response to a question from someone on BITOG to Pennzoil. Reading between the lines it seems to be that the ester additives in the Nissan oil are 'organic friction modifiers' and that Pennzoil uses some other non-ester based modifier. Whether such modifiers are needed or not will likely be a timeless flame war.
Old 03-31-2010, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hispeed-lowdrag
IMHO the ester based oils are no better than anything else. "ester" has no special meaning to me. Mobil1 or Penzoil Ultra is all I'll use



The two times I've had the dealer do it, I bring my own oil and they're totally cool with it. The other times I change my own oil.
Good to know! I'll see what my dealer thinks. lol

And as Pascal asked, do they cut you a break on the price if you bring your own oil?
Old 03-31-2010, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by PascalT
Do you save money when bringing your own oil?
Yes, my dealership (Infiniti of Denver) charged me $23.99 both times when I had them do my oil
Old 03-31-2010, 07:34 PM
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Nice. I'll have to harass my dealer.

Did you bring your own filter too?
Old 03-31-2010, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by efuseakay
Nice. I'll have to harass my dealer.

Did you bring your own filter too?
Nope. I'd just bring in 6 quarts of Mobil1 full synthetic 5W-30 and they would take care of the rest. I always buy my filters from an Infiniti dealership when I DIY as well.
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Coo! I suppose I'll let them use OEM filters for awhile...
Old 03-31-2010, 08:45 PM
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oem filters are junk.

might as well go get a fram filter
Old 03-31-2010, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by hispeed-lowdrag
IMHO the ester based oils are no better than anything else. "ester" has no special meaning to me. Mobil1 or Penzoil Ultra is all I'll use



The two times I've had the dealer do it, I bring my own oil and they're totally cool with it. The other times I change my own oil.
The only similarity between Ester based (group V) oils and Nissan "ester oil" is the fact that they are both lubricants.

True ester oils do not shear, and can withstand operating environments that would completely obliterate (literally) a coventional (dino) oil.

Refer to the UOAs posted here by members for evidence.
Old 04-19-2010, 12:54 PM
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Nissan ester oil change is $74 at my local Nissan dealer (includes coffee, muffins, inspections, topping up fluids, and a free car wash if you don't mind paint swirls).
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My first oil change was at 2000 miles with the dealer. It's been changed every 3000 miles since with Motul at a friend's shop for around $60 each time. Got the tranny and dif done last time as well. Can't really tell the difference from dino oil to fancy stuff, but if I pay the same as compared to going to the dealer, don't need to wait around for an hour, and can poke around the garage unsupervised while they work on the car, then it's good enough for me.

For those of us who use the sedan to commute, IMO the frequency of fluid change is more important than what we put into the car. Just my opinion.
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I'm changing my oil tomorrow at 2600 miles (bought car new in Dec 09), replacing the factory fill with Penzoil Ultra 5w30 and a Purolator PureOne filter.
Old 04-20-2010, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SM_Shadowman
$65 sounds way too much for a bulk-dino 5w30 non-synthetic oil change. I'd go somewhere else if you want that -- considering you can get the exact same thing for less than 30 bucks from pretty much any mechanic. Or even most car dealerships.

The Nissan Ester oil itself is expensive. Up to $11-$12 per quart if you buy it yourself.
Does it cost less if you have someone else buy it for you?
Old 04-20-2010, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mi000ke
Nissan ester oil change is $74 at my local Nissan dealer (includes coffee, muffins, inspections, topping up fluids, and a free car wash if you don't mind paint swirls).
Isn't that the truth! Do dealer detail guys attend a special school where they teach the best and most efficient methods of creating swirl on a vehicle's surface?
Old 04-20-2010, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ozzypriest
Does it cost less if you have someone else buy it for you?
Lol .

I meant that's the price if you buy it yourself instead of having the Infiniti dealership give you a $110 oil change with it. I don't know if they break it down by parts + labor for an oil change, but my guess is the "parts" section of that bill might come to even more than if you just buy the oil.


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