Want good fuel economy, get a Jetta TDI. Oh no, wait, scratch that...

 

I mean, as long as you don't go get whatever ecu update they roll out you'll keep the fuel economy and the increased power output.

I personally don't see anything wrong with what they did. Sure they broke the US's absurdly strict emission laws and delivered a car to the consumer with more power because of it. Whatever.

The reason Mazda is so slow in getting their diesels over here is because they don't use Urea injection if I remember right and it's totally fine anywhere but the US.

Anyways... back on topic....

 

I agree 100%, SnowMan. Was just trying to be clever...

As a BMW X5 x35d owner, as my other car, I'm a huge believer in diesel technology. I use it to haul a 25' travel trailer with two slides and without fail... every time we pull into camp (often at the races) at least 2 or 3 people come up to me and say, "You're pulling *that* with *that*???"

The EPA, by not creating diesel-specific emissions standards here in the US like other countries, and by placing full faith in OBD (1, 2, 3, etc.) which was outdated before it was even implemented has essentially created this problem, or incentive to work-around.

Mazda and Honda both... have been trying for several years to get diesel over here in their offerings without DEF. Not gonna happen... and sadly, I think that's where VW finds themselves.

Again... not to get more off-topic... I've helped wrench a buddy's Golf TDI racer on a number of weekends. Holds the track record in his class at a several road courses. It's funny... The Civics go by screaming at 8K rpm... That thing is *silent*. Of course... he has a "Rollin' Coal" bumper sticker on it.

Sorry to stray off course... Just saw the opportunity to inject a little contextual humor.

 

I avg 21mpg with no mods and only get on it when under halfway mark =D

 

I've actually improved haha. The first two days I owned the car I averaged 13.1 city. I've calmed down to 15.9 now.

 

I have done this. LoL. Get the best mileage I can until I need to go get gas then I drive like a jackass! LoL

 

Yep

 

I get like 10-11 in the city(no joke).... just got it recently and I cry everytime I drive cuz it's beautiful but also because i can see the gas going down..

 

No they're not. The Z is smaller, lighter, faster and handles better. It is definitely a sports car, the G is not. It's a fast, capable handling, GT coupe. Just for the record, I'm not talking out my a$$. This is my driveway, the Z is my wifes Just to stay on topic, I drive the G like I stole it so I don't really care about gas mileage but it does waaaay better than our F150 super crew. The G gets 12-15 city, 25ish hiway running 80 to 85 with the 5 speed auto.

 

I get between 14.8 and 19.3. Terrible lol but idk

 

I've gotten almost 30 on a trip from Maryland to Ohio, I drove it very calm and was doing 70-75 on the highway with two passengers and some luggage. I'm convinced that unless someone has something wrong with the car it boils down to driving style. I'm amazed how hard people accelerate from one stop sign/light to the another a few 100 feet down the road, then have to hit brakes hard.

 

This car loves to stretch its legs. Gets really good mileage on the freeway doing 70-80 you can easily avg high 20 to low 30's. The city is what kicks your a$$

 

My IPL Vert gets pretty low too. im in aTL and going to work in stop and go I85 traffic takes me 1.5 hrs to get to work on average and usually 17 MPG. if I can stay moving it gets about 20-21 and highway miles at 80 is about 23-25. Once I got the Stillen G3 CAI it seems the mileage got better.

 

I'm all city mileage as well. I don't mash the gas all the time...only when I know I can get away with it.

 

I think a lot of it has to do with consistent throttle application. Even on the highway, unless I keep it steady and gentle, it's hard to attain 25 mpg at 70-80 mph. Lower speeds (55-60) mid to upper 20's is not a problem. At higher elevations, even though less power is available, mpg is higher because of thinner air (for same driving style).

True urban/city driving yields ~16-19 mpg for me. Better than my old camaro but still crap by today's standards.