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^^^This. I drive pretty aggressive getting on the freeway and do about 70 on the freeway and I still get about 23 mpg mixed. Ouch indeed
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some of the commutes described here directly relate to the resulting poor economy, not as much driving habits. a 4 mile urban commute? a 12 minute city commute with lights? these are very short city commutes which are the worst possible scenario for fuel economy. the engine runs "rich" for the first few minutes, and just after engine and driveline fluids warm up the car would be shut off. so not only is the stop-n-go driving inefficient, so is the operating condition.
this reminds me of a buddy who sold his mazdaspeed3 and bought a g35X (5AT) so his g/f could drive it on occasion to her work. they lived downtown and she worked downtown (don't ask me why she even needed to drive in the first place). my buddy, who is from europe where fuel economy is a big deal, complained endlessly about the mileage. being a G fan at first i defended it, but then told him that having a 3.5L engine idling in traffic is obviously going to gulp fuel more than a little 4-cyl so what does he expect? leave the car at home for short city drives if mileage was such a concern - plus, parking is a pain downtown...
anyways, for those who have no choice but to use their cars for stop-n-go urban commutes, you need to be realistic about fuel economy numbers. try ethanol-free gasoline to see if that helps. it usually extends my range by 5-10%.
my 10 mile commute is 95% "city" driving with a bunch of lights and hills. i get 11.2L/100 which is ~20mpg (US gal). have been doing so for 4+ years with little change - except a small dip in winter to account for running accessories. i can live with that mileage based on my commute and the fact that this is a heavy-ish sport sedan with 330hp.
this reminds me of a buddy who sold his mazdaspeed3 and bought a g35X (5AT) so his g/f could drive it on occasion to her work. they lived downtown and she worked downtown (don't ask me why she even needed to drive in the first place). my buddy, who is from europe where fuel economy is a big deal, complained endlessly about the mileage. being a G fan at first i defended it, but then told him that having a 3.5L engine idling in traffic is obviously going to gulp fuel more than a little 4-cyl so what does he expect? leave the car at home for short city drives if mileage was such a concern - plus, parking is a pain downtown...
anyways, for those who have no choice but to use their cars for stop-n-go urban commutes, you need to be realistic about fuel economy numbers. try ethanol-free gasoline to see if that helps. it usually extends my range by 5-10%.
my 10 mile commute is 95% "city" driving with a bunch of lights and hills. i get 11.2L/100 which is ~20mpg (US gal). have been doing so for 4+ years with little change - except a small dip in winter to account for running accessories. i can live with that mileage based on my commute and the fact that this is a heavy-ish sport sedan with 330hp.



... I drive slightly aggressive and get about 19... 
