G37 Coupe

Driving impressions of my G37x coupe...when does the awd kick in?!?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 3, 2013 | 07:40 PM
  #16  
Darth Kinetic's Avatar
Darth Kinetic
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 599
Likes: 20
From: Buckeye Nation
Thank you everyone for resetting my expectations!! Basically I now have a rear wheel drive car except in snow and will have to:
A)djust my driving habits and style
B)uy Stiffer sway bars, STICKIER performance tires and an FSTB
C)orner with power and precision so as to avoid my *** being soooo loose
and
D)rift like a pro
E)njoy all things Infiniti

Now someone please tell me...where is the pause button in the audio controls to pause a song on disc or playing via Musicbox or USB???

Last edited by Darth Kinetic; Dec 3, 2013 at 08:48 PM.
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2013 | 08:40 PM
  #17  
farmurr's Avatar
farmurr
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 189
Likes: 16
From: Toronto, ON
Originally Posted by Darth Kinetic
E)njoy all things Infinity
Infiniti*

Originally Posted by Darth Kinetic
Now someone please tell me...where is the pause button in the audio controls to pause a song on disc or playing via Musicbox or USB???
And isn't it just the middle/select button? Or you could just press the volume **** to turn off the audio...
Reply
Old Dec 3, 2013 | 08:50 PM
  #18  
Darth Kinetic's Avatar
Darth Kinetic
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 599
Likes: 20
From: Buckeye Nation
Damn auto correct on my phone

And thank you! I found that Bluetooth streaming audio had a pause button on the screen....how could they NOT have one for USB and MusicBox
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2013 | 12:08 AM
  #19  
gsm026's Avatar
gsm026
Registered Member
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 317
Likes: 14
From: Northern Colorado, USA
I had a '09 xS for 4 years. It is different than the Audi in that it is intended to drive like a RWD car and only add power to the front wheels when their is slippage detected in the rear wheels. And that is exactly what it does. On dry pavement it is purely RWD, only advantage is that it prevents most of the wheel spin if you punch it off the line. I personally really like this AWD system. But ... it is intended for inclement weather, not as an overall handling enhancement. And the AWD G's are set up for understeer, and in the case of the sedan also lose the sports suspension, quick steering and big brakes. Similar to the BMW 3-series (although with the 3-series you can still get 6MT with AWD). So you give up handling.

Snow is a different matter. We're supposed to get about a foot of snow tomorrow - this is where I miss my xS. I'll be taking the wife's SUV to work in the morning.
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2013 | 06:35 AM
  #20  
Darth Kinetic's Avatar
Darth Kinetic
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 599
Likes: 20
From: Buckeye Nation
Thank you GSM !!
Reply
Old Dec 4, 2013 | 04:06 PM
  #21  
rmfnla's Avatar
rmfnla
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 626
Likes: 25
From: L.A. (We love it!)
Originally Posted by Darth Kinetic
Thank you everyone for resetting my expectations!! Basically I now have a rear wheel drive car except in snow and will have to:
A)djust my driving habits and style
B)uy Stiffer sway bars, STICKIER performance tires and an FSTB
C)orner with power and precision so as to avoid my *** being soooo loose
and
D)rift like a pro
E)njoy all things Infiniti
Clever...
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2013 | 05:24 AM
  #22  
deadguy366's Avatar
deadguy366
Registered User
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 72
Likes: 1
From: Canada
I had the same thought's when I first got my xS, called it useless many times while still driving on crappy all seasons during winter. But this year now that I have good winter tires on the awd seems to work perfectly. I still don't trust it to kick in fast enough on an icy highway but when it comes to getting going on snow and ice it works awesome. Just have to be careful in deep snow not to cause the vdc to engage or it slows me down to the point of almost getting stuck (when driving through deep snow you want a certain amount of wheel spin.)
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2013 | 12:22 PM
  #23  
rmfnla's Avatar
rmfnla
Registered User
 
Joined: Jul 2013
Posts: 626
Likes: 25
From: L.A. (We love it!)
Originally Posted by deadguy366
I had the same thought's when I first got my xS, called it useless many times while still driving on crappy all seasons during winter. But this year now that I have good winter tires on the awd seems to work perfectly. I still don't trust it to kick in fast enough on an icy highway but when it comes to getting going on snow and ice it works awesome. Just have to be careful in deep snow not to cause the vdc to engage or it slows me down to the point of almost getting stuck (when driving through deep snow you want a certain amount of wheel spin.)

It ain't a Jeep...
Reply
Old Dec 5, 2013 | 12:41 PM
  #24  
farmurr's Avatar
farmurr
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2013
Posts: 189
Likes: 16
From: Toronto, ON
Originally Posted by deadguy366
I had the same thought's when I first got my xS, called it useless many times while still driving on crappy all seasons during winter. But this year now that I have good winter tires on the awd seems to work perfectly. I still don't trust it to kick in fast enough on an icy highway but when it comes to getting going on snow and ice it works awesome. Just have to be careful in deep snow not to cause the vdc to engage or it slows me down to the point of almost getting stuck (when driving through deep snow you want a certain amount of wheel spin.)
Isn't this where the "snow" button comes in handy? Found a good explanation in another thread:

Quote from GT-R:
No, the X always starts at 25/75 from a dead stop, not 0/100. If there is no slip, it goes to 0/100. In snow mode, the car is 50/50 up to 12 MPH and the throttle response is reduced. After 12 MPH, the car goes back to automatically managing torque distribution.

The ATTESA system is designed for smooth starts, better fuel economy and better traction and maneuverability on snowy roads than conventional all-wheel drive systems and minimal compromise of rear-wheel drive performance characteristics on dry roads.

The system's advanced torque split control strategy automatically transfers optimum torque to the wheels according to road and driving conditions. It provides outstanding cornering capability similar to a sports car due to optimum torque distribution to the front and rear wheels (from approximately 0:100 up to 50:50).

System sensors continuously monitor vehicle speed, throttle position and wheel spin (at all four wheels). When road conditions don't require AWD, the G35/G37 acts and feels like the award-winning rear-wheel drive G35/G37 sedan, with the system capable of sending up to 100 percent of the power to the rear wheels. The G35/G37 thus offers minimal compromise of rear-wheel drive performance and handling feel.

From a standing start, the ATTESA system adjusts the front-to-rear torque distribution, adding 25 percent to the front wheels for a more powerful start. The system then quickly adjusts torque distribution as needed, sending up to 100 percent to the rear wheels if conditions warrant, or adjusting the front drive percentage up to 50 percent as needed.

In cornering situations, the ATTESA system can detect traction needs throughout the course of a turn and react accordingly. With its millisecond response time, the system can shift toque back and forth between the front and rear wheels to help enhance stability and traction. For example, in entering a corner (under normal driving conditions), the system functions nearly the same as any rear-wheel drive car. Torque distribution is almost 100 percent rear. Once in the corner, the system is able to transfer to the front wheels that portion of the drive torque that the rear wheels can't handle. This results in outstanding, sports car-like cornering ability. When exiting the corner, torque can be quickly transferred according to the wheel spin of the rear wheels from 50:50 up to 0:100 for smooth acceleration out of the turn.

Another unique feature of the G35/G37 AWD system design is the addition of a Snow-Mode function, which reduces throttle sensitivity and fixes initial torque distribution at 50:50, helping avoid wheel spin for smooth starts on snowy roads. At speeds above 12 miles per hour, the Snow-Mode function allows the central computer processing system to take over again, continually monitoring traction conditions and changing the torque distribution as needed.

I hope this clears up any confusion, period.
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2013 | 12:20 PM
  #25  
Darth Kinetic's Avatar
Darth Kinetic
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 599
Likes: 20
From: Buckeye Nation
Originally Posted by farmurr
Isn't this where the "snow" button comes in handy? Found a good explanation in another thread:

Quote from GT-R:


In cornering situations, the ATTESA system can detect traction needs throughout the course of a turn and react accordingly. With its millisecond response time, the system can shift toque back and forth between the front and rear wheels to help enhance stability and traction. For example, in entering a corner (under normal driving conditions), the system functions nearly the same as any rear-wheel drive car. Torque distribution is almost 100 percent rear. Once in the corner, the system is able to transfer to the front wheels that portion of the drive torque that the rear wheels can't handle. This results in outstanding, sports car-like cornering ability. When exiting the corner, torque can be quickly transferred according to the wheel spin of the rear wheels from 50:50 up to 0:100 for smooth acceleration out of the turn.

.

great stuff but I havent found the corner situation to be true or it hasnt proven itself to me as I have attempted multiple corner exits aggressively only have the rear slip and traction control to kick in and kill my throttle rather than front wheel power to help out...

perhaps I just havent had enough time in the car yet, and as I stated above, I am SURE I just need to adjust my driving technique to rear wheel rather than my comfort and experience of a true ALL wheel like y audi..


BTW, there will be Zero agressive cornering now in Ohio since it is icing and snowing as I type...

looks alot like this ( plus or minus the At-At)

Reply
Old Dec 6, 2013 | 12:41 PM
  #26  
Rochester's Avatar
Rochester
Administrator
15 Year Member
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 19,848
Likes: 5,143
From: Rochester, NY
Originally Posted by farmurr
I've never pushed that button myself, but from what I hear VDC Off = you in a ditch.
Never?

On the RWD G, particularly the RWD Sport with VLSD, (and particularly particularly the 6MT model) the only way you can get the most out of the car is to turn the TC off. I do it all the time, whenever I'm looking to push the car and enjoy the moment. Can't speak for the AWD crowd, but I suspect there are similarities. The best way to develop skills and comfort with what your G37 can (and can't) do, is to turn off the Nanny.

That said, it's a heavy sport-sedan... so regardless of skills or OEM/Aftermarket suspension upgrades, don't expect Racecar.
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2013 | 06:23 PM
  #27  
SPDCRZ's Avatar
SPDCRZ
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 590
Likes: 29
From: Van City
Just turn off the VDC, then drive hard

The back will kick out a bit but overall it will be easy to keep control of and jump out of a corner if driven right. If you try to turn in to a corner too quick the AWD will kick in early and then you will just slide, coast in, then gun it out of the corner. You will be fine then.
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2013 | 06:40 PM
  #28  
Darth Kinetic's Avatar
Darth Kinetic
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 599
Likes: 20
From: Buckeye Nation
Will have to wait now till warmer less snowy weather to find out
Reply
Old Dec 6, 2013 | 11:17 PM
  #29  
chairman25's Avatar
chairman25
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2010
Posts: 142
Likes: 3
I too have had an Audi. When I first got the "G" I was disappointed with the lack of response from the AWD system. The Quattro system seems to use "nannies" less (or they are at least less intrusive) and the AWD system more to help you enjoy aggressive driving when appropriate.

I have experimented turning off the VDC to see if the "experience" changes, frankly the jury is out for me. The AWD system on the Infiniti has not been designed to perform the same as the Audi system (or others on the market) and that is not a bad thing. That said, I feel much more comfortable with the AWD system than without it, especially in bad weather.
Reply
Old Dec 15, 2013 | 09:47 PM
  #30  
Darth Kinetic's Avatar
Darth Kinetic
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Nov 2013
Posts: 599
Likes: 20
From: Buckeye Nation
i found this video to be very informative to How AWD likes ours could work:

enjoy
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:13 PM.