Nick-L,

Couldn't agree more with your sentiments. I've had all brands and not overly loyal to any one.

Having said that I got into my G37S after two BMWs (E46 328i and E60 530i). The reliability was dismal and once it starts (after the 50k mile warranty runs out of course) there is no stemming the tide. I could write paragraphs on the maintenance with my E60 and that was just with a year ownership from 59k miles to 76k (radiator, coolant hose, all brakes and calipers, REAR diff replaced, trans was leaking) It makes me sick to pay for what I can do myself so I simply got tired of not only the part costs but also the time spent on my back under a car only 5 years old with less than 100k miles...appalling.

They are fantastic to drive, but in the end they are not worth the hassle I had on two of them.

And everyone who keeps posting the 335i is so much easier to mod and make faster is being naive. What do you think is going to happen when you turn up the boost on that 335i that already has notorious high pressure fuel pump problems stock??? Yes the car will be faster but don't be surprised when it doesn't start one day or worse you hear a KABOOM!

 

Hmm then tell me why co worker who has almost 100k on 335i is still running strong after getting a tune, intake, exhausts, slightly bigger turbos? Oh and he uses it as a daily driver. Only problem he had was small leak on his oil cooler cause he forgot to tighten the bolt all the way. Like I said all cars are not the same.

 

Failures from bumping up boost are not really uncommon on the N54, and everyone that does it knows they are doing it at their own risk.

Good for your friend that he has gotten that far without problems though.

 

We're talking statistical scientific evidence here, but there are always outliers. I hate when people find one example against the trend and hyper-focus on it. i had a 2009 335i that I tuned and upped the boost on as well, and had no issues during my ownership. That does not make me deny what everyone has said regarding the statistical evidence behind what it has done to the integrity of my motor. It's a gamble, and will in time eventually prematurely fail.


I just got lucky; so is your friend. Your one argument and example can't simply make all the scientific evidence and laws of thermodynamics be wrong.

I also got rid of mine... Didn't want to deal with any issues after warranty in the long run.

 

Exactly, they know it's a roll of the dice. This is also why most companies that offer tunes (aside from Dinan, who worked with BMW to provide a more mild tune) don't back up their work with guarantees or warranties. They simply deny responsibility and tell you to tune at your own risk!

 

yeah that's my point. I know a lot of people who drive 330i. Actually almost 40% of my co workers here drive a bmw. And yes some of them had their problems because they didn't maintain their cars but those who did basic maintenance are going on strong. Like I said who many people who walk into a dealership knows about cars? I say about 60% or less they know about it but isn't what your saying go with every other car???? I'm sure people out there have had many problem's with our G. Actually there plenty of members here in the past that said they are never going to buy an Infiniti again because of engine problems. I know this is a G forum and everyone loves to boast about how G's are the best but come on get down to earth. Every car is going to have problems here and there. Question now become how big is the problem going to get.

 

Not that I dislike BMW, we own one and have put well over $10K into maintenance once the warranty was done. Most issues was mentions by Nick-L.

Here's the funny part, I have 3 friends that work for BMW, ones a salesmen, ones a financial guy, the other is a service tech. All three would never buy a BMW for the long term. They would only lease. They wouldn't even buy a used one.

 

I'd pick another G37 over the 3 series. Otherwise ///M. ///M stats on reliability is different from the 3 series. Or step down to other cars. G is a much better bang for the buck than the 3. But it is true the 3 offers more than the G, which comes at its price.

Lease new or buy used.
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I normally don't read forums to "test" the waters. But if I had read the "great" tranny thread, I would have bought a BMW instead of the G. I don't believe in statistics when it comes to cars. Does it make you feel any better knowing your just lemoned LS 460 has the highest reliability in the industry?

I think you take you chances with any car. A lot of my friends owned BMWs including me; they (as well as me) had no long term issues. It's true BMW did have some early teething issues (think HPFP), but in 2012 even CR recommends the 328, but not the 335. (But they don't recomment the TL AWD either)

 

A well-written, well-thought-out post like NickL's has way more credibility than a bunch of silly, empty (without proofs), elementary-school-level shenanigans posted by shills like g37guy01.

Seriously, dude, what do you do for a living? With your level of intelligence (displayed through your posts and reasoning, or lack thereof), I doubt there's much of a real job out there for you to earn enough money to buy even a Tata Nano.

It's hard to doubt someone like NickL, because he at least can write properly. Sure, this is just the internet, but one's writing skills can tell a lot about a one's level of education, intellect, socioeconomic status, etc.

g37guy01, until the day you can formulate your thoughts, opinions into proper sentences and paragraphs--and back them up with facts and data--like how NickL does, you'll be just nothing but a BMW fanboy trolling this Infiniti forum.

 

I don't think there's a need to bash g37guy01 since he didn't do anything of that sort towards any of the members here.

He is right about the tranny. BMW tranny is more solid that the G. But G is a better bang for the buck in terms of overall package/$.
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Thank you, appreciate it.

 

 

A fanboy is someone who blindly is one sided, that I'm not. But your post certainly smacks of a bit of one sidedness.

I disagree with the opinion nickl wrote. It's true about the LSD but my g37x doesn't have one either. And BMW makes a better sports sedan, as I've said repeatedly though, it may not be the best vehicle for you.

I would also say your posts lack a certain clarity also. As far as what I do for a living, I'm an business person who also likes cars.

Maybe we can get back to the cars and not the posters. You can't tell squat about a person from a post, other than a persons viewpoint. Some people are willing to have a mature conversation, others want to have a tantrum when someone doesn't see their point of view.

 

Don't keep saying that you disagree with what NicKL wrote without even pointing out where you disagree. Exactly which point(s) do you disagree with? Respond and show your proofs. One liners don't garner you much credibility. A discussion/debate shouldn't be just one-liners.

I still remember what my 10th grade English teacher taught me till this day: Don't write or say anything that you can't back up with evidence.