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Next Gen G Coupe, G50

Old Mar 20, 2011 | 04:00 PM
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I'd buy one without hesitation. I wish I would have known about the IPL when I bought my G last April. I would have bought that instead of the 37S. I love top tier models for some reason. It's worth it to me.
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 12:56 AM
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They already have the 5.6 liter V8 they use in the M56. Just tune it up a bit and get it making more than 420hp. With a few tweaks they could easily get 450+ out of it.

I don't see this as very far fetched at all. They could easily put that engine in the car. The question is WOULD they? With the M56 costing around 55k... why not?
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by MACS
They already have the 5.6 liter V8 they use in the M56. Just tune it up a bit and get it making more than 420hp. With a few tweaks they could easily get 450+ out of it.

I don't see this as very far fetched at all. They could easily put that engine in the car. The question is WOULD they? With the M56 costing around 55k... why not?
Like I said previously, Inifniti said they could have made a G56 using the V8 in the M56 but no one would pay the $65,000 that they'd have to charge for it. People already complain that the M may be too expensive.

http://www.autoblog.com/2010/10/05/2...iew-road-test/

A straight shooter, Mason was quick to clear the air, noting that the IPL is not meant to be the equivalent of Mercedes-Benz AMG or BMW M, telling us "Listen, we could have developed a new G Coupe with our 5.0-liter or the 5.6 [V8]. But at what cost? Sure, it would have been a halo performance vehicle, but traditionally those don't sell well." In other words, we all need to remember that the auto business remains a for-profit enterprise.

Recognizing that Infiniti hopes to continue increasing sales by expanding its model line (through August, U.S. sales were up 25 percent), Mason tells Autoblog that the purpose of its new IPL is to provide an incremental step up in performance and style beyond products that are already badged "Sport."

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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 12:38 PM
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Okay... the M is more expensive than the G, even with the same size engine in it, right? Right.

So if the M56 is listed on carsdirect dot com at 54k, why the hell would a G with the 5.6 in it cost 11k more?

Stands to reason it would cost less. How the hell they come up with the 65k price tag is beyond me.
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 02:33 PM
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Okay... the M is more expensive than the G, even with the same size engine in it, right? Right.

So if the M56 is listed on carsdirect dot com at 54k, why the hell would a G with the 5.6 in it cost 11k more?

Stands to reason it would cost less. How the hell they come up with the 65k price tag is beyond me.
Because it's not just dropping the 5.6L V8 into the car. Cars like the M3 and C63 have many parts that are used for that vehicle only and have different setups. All the extra work that goes into engineering and producing them combined with the fact that they're limited run vehicles makes them more expensive.

Look at the sales ratio of the M3 to the 5 series. BMW can afford to make a car like the M3 that sells in such small numbers becuase it such a large manufacturer. Nissan/Infiniti doesn't have the sales volume to support a vehicle that sells in such small numbers.
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 03:15 PM
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ive seen 3 g50 mules on the road already......twin turbo v8...holy crap
wait what? and that would be much better imo if they did that, I think the smarted idea is doin fi on the 6 rather than an 8. 8s should be for really high end or trucks imo
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 06:10 PM
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g50/g56 would be a cool idea. But have you looked into the g37 engine bay, how in the hell are they gonna fit a v8 in there? space comes at a premium in the engine bay already. If they were to drop a v8 into the g, they would have to revise the front end somehow. im thinking the next model will have a 3.9 liter v6 or somethign like that (something with a small step up).
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 08:53 PM
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They should just stick a twin turbo in there and be done with it. That setup could easily make 450 hp.
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Old Mar 22, 2011 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Steveo47
g50/g56 would be a cool idea. But have you looked into the g37 engine bay, how in the hell are they gonna fit a v8 in there? space comes at a premium in the engine bay already. If they were to drop a v8 into the g, they would have to revise the front end somehow. im thinking the next model will have a 3.9 liter v6 or somethign like that (something with a small step up).
I don't know the dimensions of the engine bay, but the M and the G (as well as the EX and FX) use the FM platform. It's stretched for the M but I'd imagine that the 5.6L V8 would fit in engine bay.
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 11:33 AM
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^^ i believe it you, it just is hard to believe
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Steveo47
^^ i believe it you, it just is hard to believe
I'm no expert, I'm just saying it looks like it would work on paper.
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 12:55 PM
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They should just stick a twin turbo in there and be done with it. That setup could easily make 450 hp.
I agree! If Nissan can make a 530 HP twin turbo for the GT-R, then they can find a way to get some significant gains into a G without going up to a heavy 8 cylinder.
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Old Mar 23, 2011 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MACS
Okay... the M is more expensive than the G, even with the same size engine in it, right? Right.

So if the M56 is listed on carsdirect dot com at 54k, why the hell would a G with the 5.6 in it cost 11k more?
I agree 65k is too much. The Infiniti Rep that said 65k was probably quoting an estimate price of the G56's closest competitor - the M3, and not the actual price of the G56.

The price of this car would be Infiniti's biggest challenge. Where do you price a G that is => an M3, but < a GTR in terms of performance. 65k is too much but 50k is too little if you're talking a 400+hp V8. Such a G probably won't be a money maker but it will help build their brand recognition.
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Old Mar 25, 2011 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnEnglish
Look at the sales ratio of the M3 to the 5 series. BMW can afford to make a car like the M3 that sells in such small numbers becuase it such a large manufacturer. Nissan/Infiniti doesn't have the sales volume to support a vehicle that sells in such small numbers.
That's not altogether true;

Renault-Nissan's annual sales tally puts the French-Japanese partnership just behind the industry leaders Toyota Motor Corp. and General Motors Co. and ahead of Germany's Volkswagen AG in the global rankings.

Infiniti needs a car/performance line to generate "buzz", as performer stated.
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Old Mar 27, 2011 | 11:18 AM
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While it would be awesome if Infiniti built a G50/G56, I think they need to work on their volume first. I would rather see the G25/G37 overtake BMW 3er sales in the US than to see a G56 right now.
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