if they offered that then we would have a budget gt-r and i mean just add the turbos


nissan/infiniti wont offer it beacuse it would hurt sales of there gt-r but fail to see that it would boost sales in other places

 

The 335xi comes in a manual, and I doubt it affects the sales of the M3.

 

the G37x doesnt even have paddle shifters does it?

 

Just bought the "X".... A couple of points from the thread.
The GT-R is only available in AWD and 7 speed (no manual).
Having driven the M35X for the last three winters and having rented many, i mean many, AWD's in the market including the BMW... nothing compares to the control of the ATTESA in the snow.
I believe the intelligence manipulating the tranny is what makes AWD not possible to be in a manual (can't control the drivetrain when the clutch is engaged, nor automatically spread the ratio from front to rear based on road conditions).
PS 7speed "manual shift mode" is fun, no paddles on the X, but using the stick to me was more intuitive if you are used to a standard manual.
Also, rush hour traffic is a breeze without the clutch (getting lazy in my old age).

 

then how the hell were they able to do it with the R32, R33, R34, GTi-r, Cefiro, Stagea? heh?

 

So the G35/G37 sedan never offered AWD + 6mt?

 

I dont like the front bumper for the G37x

 

If Infiniti doesn't offer the G37 or a similar coupe with an AWD manual transmission option in the future, then I probably won't buy another one. I love my G37, but it's definitely not a year-round car in the Midwest. I see twice as many 335xi's as 335i's and G35x's as G35's. It's mindboggling to me that Infiniti doesn't want to release a true competitor to the manual transmission 335xi and A5!

When it comes time to upgrade from my current G37S, I'll probably bump over to a 335xi or an A5 before I buy another G37.

 

EXACTLY. how much business does infiniti have to lose before they put out a manual?? It's not like it's a break through product that requires a lot of research and development

 

Dude, WTF are you talking about?

First off, the GT-R's dual clutch transmission is a 6 speed unit, NOT a 7 speed. And secondly, the lack of a true stick and clutch manual on Infiniti's AWD cars has nothing to do with a manual transmission being incompatible with the ATTESA-ETS AWD system. The R32, R33 and R34 GT-Rs utilized the same AWD system and were all available, ONLY with a manual transmission.



The reason we will never see AWD Infinitis with stick shifts is a simple one. There's no market for it. For the RWD Sedan, the take up rate on M/Ts is about 95% Auto/5% Manual. With that being said it's easy to understand why the G37x Sedan doesn't get an M/T. Only 5% of RWD buyers go for it. And since Infiniti sells more RWD cars than AWD ones, the number of AWD 6M/T Sedans they'd sell wouldn't justify the cost of tooling and production.

I believe the take up rate for stick shifts on the RWD G37 Coupe is something like 60% Auto/40% Manual. Statistically, most Coupe buyers already live in warmer weather regions so the G37x Coupe is already sort of a niche market car to make the 2 door body style available to folks who live in snowy areas. From a bean counter's perspective, you want to limit your options with niche market cars to lower costs. Since the G37x Coupe is already a niche market car, it makes sense to offer it only in the most common RWD configuration. Hence, no M/T and no Sport package on the G37x Coupe since most RWD G37 Coupes are non-Sport Automatics.

If you're wondering why BMW offers M/Ts on its 335xi...BMW sells 3 times more 3-Series BMWs in America than Infiniti does Gs. This is also the reason why a 3-Series is more customizable than a G. Then again it's also one of the reasons the 3 is more expensive.

 

wow sounds great

 

the convertible sounds nice

 

you guys want to sign a petion? i mean we can do one of those online ones and submit it to Infiniti

we can do it not only for 6mt GXs but also what ever pratical enchacments/mods/tweaks we'd like to see them offer in future Infiniti's

 

Sadly, Infiniti is not losing sales to BMW because of the lack of 6MT with AWD; it's more about brand perception. A majority of luxury car shoppers will pick a BMW over an Infiniti because of the badge even if the Infiniti is the better car.

BMW sold 18,383 vehicles in May compared to 6,496 for Infiniti
BMW sold 8,621 3 Series in May compared to 3,865 G37 for Infiniti

 

madmax is correct regarding brand image but Infiniti has not been around for as long as MBenz or BMW. It grew up with Lexus but the Lexus marketing is towards the older crowd, not towards a performance type of vehicle.

It's also different b/c BMW doesn't have a low end brand like Nissan so there isn't anything else to say, hey " that's just an overpriced Nissan car badged as an Infiniti"

I'm a performance oriented guy and I rather have my RWD 6mt car over an AWD car, Infiniti or non-Infiniti.