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Old Jul 16, 2020 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by rotarymike
Subbed. This is interesting stuff - did similar with old Pic Micros and sensors in the early aughts to make data recorders for the racecar. FWIW, the pc-board mount pressure/vac sensors used in the old Megasquirt standalone ECUs were inexpensive and very accurate, but they had to not be in the engine bay, or very well shielded from heat. Our experience using electronic gauge sensors and OEM MAP sensors from various cars showed they had a built-in time filter - that is, they reacted very slowly in electronic terms to changes in the measured pressure. For measuring cylinder pressure rapidly we ended up using a lab-grade stainless sensor that cost hundreds - thank goodness we only needed one.

For this project, I'd like to see if passing the PCV through a oil/air separator (basically, the drain bottles everyone is using with some steel wool added) then back to the intake changes the pressures and performance substantially.

Pressure v. RPM and engine load (I guess derived from injector PW) would be interesting to see plotted out.
I understand your point on different pressure sensors. In our testing we evaluated SEVEN different pressure sensors (SPI and Analog) before selecting the one we thought would be the best. The sensor we ended up going with has a response time of 1ms, so if we sample 1,000 times per second the sensor can keep up. We ended up sampling at 80 times per second using a 12 bit ADC for excellent resolution of 0.0012 volts.

As for measuring crankcase pressure, since we record engine RPM, we can infer engine load based on the slope of engine RPM.
The reality is, we want to know how high it gets, so that means data logging at wide open throttle. We did some 2nd gear WOT pulls (3500 - 7500 RPM) on the street and even went to the drag strip to collect data at WOT in the first four gears.

For catch cans...
When you factor in the flow rate of the PCV system, I don't see catch cans being a restriction, at least for NA applications.
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Old Jul 17, 2020 | 09:43 AM
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Good stuff, as always. I like to see people doing science rather than just adding parts...
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