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Old Oct 9, 2013 | 11:20 PM
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I hardly have to use the paddles on the straight, almost never when turning. When I braked hard, the car down-shift (rev matching), and if this is the beginning of a turn, I would just coast or accelerate thru the turn. Down shifting during a turn will just upset the balance of the car. I experienced the car rev matching when I was lost in Yellow stone. It was a foggy night on a winding road and the rev matching held the car after each turn, no shifting required...
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 09:56 AM
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At least for me, its very uncomfortable to be taking a sharp turn, my elbow and arm end up in an awkward position to begin with, much less if I had to keep them in just the right spot on the wheel to get to the shifters.

Maybe its just my positioning, but I find it a lot easier to just reach my index or pinky finger back to hook onto the paddles if they are stationary with the column.

Funny thing about the Vette setup....I told my dad it freaked me out, since I accidentally downshifted after using the "upshift" paddle (pressed the right side like I always do on the G). He used them for a few days and agreed its a horrible design. Went on the web and found all sorts of sellers for the mod to make them work just like the G - both up/down paddles on right are now upshift, both paddles on left are now downshift

Gotcha...You or your dad shoudl try out the new 2014 Stingray...leaps and bounds better than the out-going 'Vette.... I had a track day with a bunch of them 2 weekends ago Which actually ruined me from buying one b/c now I know it's capabilites and you can never do that on the street without killing yourself or others...The cars we drove had the Z51 track package.
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 09:58 AM
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I hardly have to use the paddles on the straight, almost never when turning. When I braked hard, the car down-shift (rev matching), and if this is the beginning of a turn, I would just coast or accelerate thru the turn. Down shifting during a turn will just upset the balance of the car. I experienced the car rev matching when I was lost in Yellow stone. It was a foggy night on a winding road and the rev matching held the car after each turn, no shifting required...
Yeah basically I realized DS is probably the best way to go with the G if you wanna just drive and have some fun on the twisties...But sometimes I just wanna have some fun manually paddling thru gears...It might be the control freak in me...
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 10:13 AM
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Originally Posted by WannabeSport
You are so incredibly *** backwards on the way paddles are supposed to be fixed in a car. PERFORMANCE cars are all mounted on the column, not the wheel. It is so when your doing high speed maneuvers the paddles are always where you expect them to be. Less of a 'hunt' to find them.
Yeah....no....They are supposed to always be at your finger tips. Not fixed in place where you have to REMOVE your hands from the steering wheel to use them. Yes the Lamborghini and other brutish straight line performance cars have them mounted on the steering column b/c all you need to do is go straight and all you need to do is flip the paddles...Here you dont' even need a down-shift paddle...Both should just be up-shift for drag racing!...But you'd be seriously hard pressed to find a car made for handling the twisties not having the paddles on the steering wheel....Rally cars, Indy cars, Porsche, Ferrari, 2014 Vette Stingray z51, Lexus IS-F....ok that's about the cars I'm familiar with....
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by insidiousaudio
if you need 2 hands in a high g turn your not a real driver..
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 10:39 AM
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i'm a fan of on the column versus the wheel...
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 11:38 AM
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I haven't had any problems with the paddles being fixed. I like that I know where they are during a turn, and I find that they're big enough that I can reach them while turning.
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 02:04 PM
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I guess for street use where hand-over-hand driving is the norm, fixed paddles are fine...on track days...not-so-much...
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 10Gee37exeS
I'm guessing you're the only one that agress with me....I just dont' get why everyone like the fixed paddles on teh steering column. When you're driving stright your hands are usually at 10 and 2...so when you turn they should still be at 10 and 2 in realtion to the steering wheel, BUT your hands will physically be at, let's say you're making a hard right turn, 12 (right hand) and 7 (left hand). So how the heck are you supposed to hit the paddles that are fix-mounted on the steering at 2-4 and 8-10 (I gave it some hours b/c the paddles span those hours)? You can't..your fingers start to flail around looking to shift as you hit the limiter. I've done this manys of times.....I still think the paddles located on the back of the steering wheel itself is the way to go...so they turn as you tun and are always at your finger tips when you need them...
I completely agree with you. During spirited driving I don't know who is driving with one hand (no control and flat out dangerous) or with their hands in any other position than 10 to 2. With that being said, m3's m5's etc are all on the wheel. My buddy's E60 M5 which I drive from time to time is like that and it definitely makes for a better drive than my G. There are also times where on the highway you may be going into a little bend or something and have to downshift as you get into the bend, maybe while turning the wheel a little more than expected and braking a little more than expected you may even have to slap the paddles more than once and its quite awkward trying to do that with the steering wheel turned and having to try to reach the paddle which is mounted on the column.....
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Old Oct 10, 2013 | 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 10Gee37exeS
He can't be serious...
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Old Oct 11, 2013 | 01:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Rochester
Every time I get to drive a car with flappy paddles, it only takes a few minutes of use before I abandon them and use the ratchet shifter on the console to bump through the gears. And then it only takes a few minutes more to get bored of that and just put it in Drive. No clutchy no likey.
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Never got the hang of shifting automatics manually. It's not fun, not natural, and nothing like driving with a clutch and stick.
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Old Oct 11, 2013 | 02:01 AM
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it depends the situation. alot of times coming out the corner you just don't need 2 hands. i have a auto and honestly DS does a pretty damn good jod and you dont need to shift but every once and a while the manual mode gives you more control..
as far as driving the auto in manual.. its better IMO sure its drive by wire but once you get the shift points etc i think its fun plus its faster shifting...
also you should have the proper seat belts in your on the track.. that makes a big difference..
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Old Oct 11, 2013 | 02:06 AM
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Originally Posted by 10Gee37exeS
My GF's IS250 AWD has them mounted to the back side steering wheel....the IS-F does too...as does the 2014 Stingray and many other sporty cars (i.e Porsche). So when you're turning the paddles are always at your finger tips! THIS is the way it should've been if Infiniti wanted a "Sport" version/option!
So I guess the Lamborghini Gallardo Superleggera LP570-4 I drove at Exotics Racing in Vegas isn't a sports car.

Different manufacturers, different designs, that's all. BMWs don't even come with paddles, they're more like buttons.
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Old Oct 11, 2013 | 03:28 AM
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I prefer them on the column rather than on the steering wheel. When I was searching other forums to see what their opinions were on this same topic I came across one post in the GTR forums that basically summed up why I would rather have the paddles on the column.

Most of my shifting is done going into corners and coming out of them, not during them, so shifting isn't a big deal. I mean, with a manual, you'd move your hand completely away from the wheel. Here you just let go a little move up or down slightly, tap the paddle, and go back to the wheel.

So with the paddles, you always know where it is, and which one is where. I equate this, for people who aren't sure what I'm referring to - as (for those who have bluetooth buttons on their wheels) trying to answer your phone in your car mid-corner. You have to look at the wheel, don't you?
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Old Oct 11, 2013 | 07:12 AM
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Never driven a performance car with paddles (mounted to the column or the steering wheel) so I can't talk from experience, but my advise is to skip the paddles, go with the 6MT
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