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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:12 PM
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Shifting Without Using the Clutch

Didn't know it was possible until I learned how to do it and actually tried it on my G. From 2nd to 3rd seems a bit trickier but 3rd to 4th is pretty smooth if you get the RPM right. Basically, all you have to do is:

1. On the 2nd gear, accelerate and rev up to about 3100 rpm
2. Foot off the gas pedal, gently push it to neutral. Stop trying if you can't nudge it to nuetral, you've probably passed the point and forcing it won't be good.
3. Continue to push it to 3rd, again, doing it gently and never force it.

The whole shifting should be done before the RPM goes below 2600.

Like I said, from 3rd to 4th is a lot easier and natural. However, I don't think I will be doing this often because the accelaration will be slower and the car feels like it's got a bad auto gearbox or something.

I'm just glad that I actually could do it.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:26 PM
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Its great you learned but I see no use. Why risk any added stress on the transmission/synchros if not done properly?
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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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yep its possible the right rpm and it goes right in gear
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Old May 2, 2011 | 06:34 PM
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kRAM, you're right. I guess it was just a fun experiment plus a skill you could use when your clutch goes out on you, which I hope will never happen.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 11:08 PM
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If your clutch goes out, good luck getting it in 1st gear. Useless skill if you ask me, especially with our weak syncros.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 11:22 PM
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It's not great doing it but it just means you are becoming one with your car.
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Old May 2, 2011 | 11:34 PM
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is called power shifting. nothing new at all
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Old May 2, 2011 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by notlkk
(Shifting Without Using the Clutch) Didn't know it was possible until I learned how to do it and actually tried it on my G. From 2nd to 3rd seems a bit trickier but 3rd to 4th is pretty smooth if you get the RPM right. Basically, all you have to do is:

1. On the 2nd gear, accelerate and rev up to about 3100 rpm
2. Foot off the gas pedal, gently push it to neutral. Stop trying if you can't nudge it to nuetral, you've probably passed the point and forcing it won't be good.
3. Continue to push it to 3rd, again, doing it gently and never force it.

The whole shifting should be done before the RPM goes below 2600.
Originally Posted by j23a45m
is called power shifting. nothing new at all
It's nothing new alright but it's not called power shifting. Power shifting is a full throttle shift, not letting up on the gas & done very quickly; almost the opposite of what the op described...
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Old May 2, 2011 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
It's nothing new alright but it's not called power shifting. Power shifting is a full throttle shift, not letting up on the gas & done very quickly; almost the opposite of what the op described...
correct he just went about doing it wrong!
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Old May 3, 2011 | 01:00 AM
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Shifting with no clutch! Zomg!
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Old May 3, 2011 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by 1NEETO
Shifting with no clutch! Zomg!
Exactly people with 7sp do it all the time
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Old May 3, 2011 | 01:18 AM
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Originally Posted by j23a45m
correct he just went about doing it wrong!
j23a45m, you are the person who is wrong.

I'm not going to explain it further for you, my first post here was perfectly clear.
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Old May 3, 2011 | 02:28 AM
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If you wanted to shift with using the clutch why didn't you get an AT?
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Old May 3, 2011 | 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by CaptainObvious
j23a45m, you are the person who is wrong.

I'm not going to explain it further for you, my first post here was perfectly clear.
I said correct as in you was correct!

it's cool cuz I didn't ask how to do it, or for you to explain. I've done it in plenty of Honda's at the track! thanks a lot tho

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Old May 3, 2011 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by j23a45m
I said correct as in you was correct!

it's cool cuz I didn't ask how to do it, or for you to explain. I've done it in plenty of Honda's at the track! thanks a lot tho
You really don't understand whats going on. The OP was correct. He was being conversational about a technique. As already stated, it is NOT needed, really useful, or in ANY way meant for performance. It is kind of cool to be able to say, show somebody a "trick" that you can shift the car without a clutch. Usually done 3-4 in most cars. Nothing more then a "trick".

If you have done it in "plenty of Hondas at the track" your either lying, lying, or just retarded. For one, it's impossible to actually go through all the gears in this manner, and for two, it's a coast, wait, and feel process that is the SLOWEST way to possibly shift.

I think what you are maybe confused on, is "Power Shifting" which IS for performance, the fastest way to shift, and for racing. Full throttle, one fluid movement of the clutch and arm slamming the shifter as hard and as fast as possible. Another term/technique is "side stepping" the clutch. Same process, but rather then bending your knee and bringing your foot up off the clutch, you are depressing it, shifting, and sliding your foot off to the side to allow the spring of the clutch to release it and slam the pedal back up.

PLEASE send pictures of the transmission pieces all over the ground if you have shifted without a clutch in a track setting.

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