Greddy Twin Turbo for the VQ37HR
11-14-2009, 03:42 PM
#31
wait for someone to buy this first and blow their motor, then you buy! That's how you do it with these big name brands!
I don't care what that dyno says, GREDDY E-MANAGE?? That is in HISTORY one of the most SHIETIEST ENGINE MANAGEMENTS EVER CREATED BY MAN-KIND. LOL then again those come stock with all their kits.
I don't care what that dyno says, GREDDY E-MANAGE?? That is in HISTORY one of the most SHIETIEST ENGINE MANAGEMENTS EVER CREATED BY MAN-KIND. LOL then again those come stock with all their kits.
11-14-2009, 03:54 PM
#32
Administrator
And 2C strikes again.. may I ask what makes Greddy E-Manage that sh!ttiest?
11-14-2009, 04:03 PM
#33
Hrmm never dealt with it so I never knew, but I can tell you, every shop I ever been to for years, all their installers hate E-Manage, all the tuners I ever met hate E-Manage, all the people I ever met that had E-Manage Had issues with it, I personally never met anyone with an E-Manage that runs correctly. The stuff it gives you to tune with is not enough and the stuff it does for your car is not enough, instead it causes you more issues then anything. So first hand experience? Nah I'll never know, but you can ask any car FI Enthusiast and when they hear Greddy E-Manage it's like O.O....BUUUT If you're a honda then maybe not, they use to tell me " You only buy E-Manage if you Broke and is saving up money for a real engine management system " Fortunately for us we don't need that, we got Flashes for even when we go FI! 
12-29-2009, 05:56 PM
#35
sweet, just remember, take a hammer and smash the e-manage that it comes with, shiet cant even make a turbo civic si run right what makes you think itll make a g37 run right.
If someone says then what would I do?
If i went TT i'd go GTM TT and take it GTM themselves.
If I go Greddy TT, I'd buy it and take it to Corner 3 Garage out here in SoCal and have them install it, then bring the car to Tadashi at Technosquare to have a tune.
My 2 cent.
If someone says then what would I do?
If i went TT i'd go GTM TT and take it GTM themselves.
If I go Greddy TT, I'd buy it and take it to Corner 3 Garage out here in SoCal and have them install it, then bring the car to Tadashi at Technosquare to have a tune.
My 2 cent.
12-29-2009, 06:18 PM
#36
Administrator
A little more reasoning would be appreciated 2C
01-02-2010, 02:15 AM
#39
Registered User
don't bother Sam, he doesn't know. i read his post and its all "he said this" and "they said that". nothing specific as to WHY it sucks. i love posters like this...it's like "man that **** will blowzered up your moterz cuz datz wat a few homies told me"....lol
shawn from chruch automotive has done quite a few tunes with the e-manage on hondas with no problems...but truth be told it's still just a 'piggy' and not a stand alone.
so what you're really asking Sam is...yes you can use this to tune....but
since you're straight balla Dubai gangsta then you'd want to get a stand alone
from superstreet:
the e-manage ultimate can control your ignition timing separately from your airflow readings, but there are still catches. You are able to change ignition timing maps but the e-manage simply changes the output signal the ecu sends to the coils. The problem is the ignition timing numbers are not always consistent with the changes you make to the load sensor, whether its your map, or maf sensor. So you are guessing the timing numbers. The stock ecu also has multiple maps it can run for different conditions so you are not always consistent with the tune.
A stand alone ecu lets you build, from scratch, completely new ignition timing maps and fuel maps and cam angle maps.
in a nutshell....the ecu is the cars brain...to get a smarter brain, the best way is to replace the brain...not add another smaller brain to intercept signals to fool the main brain...LOL.
shawn from chruch automotive has done quite a few tunes with the e-manage on hondas with no problems...but truth be told it's still just a 'piggy' and not a stand alone.
so what you're really asking Sam is...yes you can use this to tune....but
since you're straight balla Dubai gangsta then you'd want to get a stand alone
from superstreet:
the e-manage ultimate can control your ignition timing separately from your airflow readings, but there are still catches. You are able to change ignition timing maps but the e-manage simply changes the output signal the ecu sends to the coils. The problem is the ignition timing numbers are not always consistent with the changes you make to the load sensor, whether its your map, or maf sensor. So you are guessing the timing numbers. The stock ecu also has multiple maps it can run for different conditions so you are not always consistent with the tune.
A stand alone ecu lets you build, from scratch, completely new ignition timing maps and fuel maps and cam angle maps.
in a nutshell....the ecu is the cars brain...to get a smarter brain, the best way is to replace the brain...not add another smaller brain to intercept signals to fool the main brain...LOL.
01-02-2010, 04:14 AM
#41
For anyone whether a manufactures, shop or a tuner that Recommends a piggy back system for a G37,370z or any Nissan product is simply doing a disservice to that person end of story .
Now if there was no other options or solutions then that is a different story, but with the current technology that being used today via the flash it's really plain stupid to use anything else .
Sorry for being so blunt but i think i need to be .
Back in 2007 in our G37 twin turbo development car We installed a complete stand alone (HKS Fcon vpro) on the car because there was no other option available then. And we got it done and it did work very well after spending close to 80 hours logging,monitoring and tinning although it can be tricky to work with we have overcome quite a few challenges, the amount of input the ecu looks at for all it logic is over whelming to say the least and using a piggy back system that takes the factory ecu inputs and outputs and try to manipulated is the wrong way of doing it in this platform plain and simple .
Now if there was no other options or solutions then that is a different story, but with the current technology that being used today via the flash it's really plain stupid to use anything else .
Sorry for being so blunt but i think i need to be .
Back in 2007 in our G37 twin turbo development car We installed a complete stand alone (HKS Fcon vpro) on the car because there was no other option available then. And we got it done and it did work very well after spending close to 80 hours logging,monitoring and tinning although it can be tricky to work with we have overcome quite a few challenges, the amount of input the ecu looks at for all it logic is over whelming to say the least and using a piggy back system that takes the factory ecu inputs and outputs and try to manipulated is the wrong way of doing it in this platform plain and simple .
01-02-2010, 04:22 AM
#42
Registered User
and what? we gonna duke it out like we do 'old school' ? LOL. let me assemble my car gang so that both our car gangs can do it 'West side story style' YO. LOL 
LOL. get some perspective...you're pissed off because of a forum post. and what's funny is that you post 'you don't care what forum members think about me' and post a whole rant like a 5 year old...LOL.
you know what pisses me off?
-my buddies in the middle east getting torn up because of oil.
-unemployed relatives who need money because of rich pig banks
-starving people in Africa getting shot begging for food
you know what makes me laugh:
"wah, wah, wah...you called me out on a car forum...wah,wah,wah...lets meet up...wah,wah,wah"
i personally love your posts...we don't get enough e-thugging in these forums. LOL.
ok seriously though: this is a forum to have fun in. whatever is typed can be read in a serious matter or not. it all depends on what the person does with it. and yes, at the heart of it we do agree piggys are not worth it. so shut up already...LOL.
btw-shawn is not MY tuner (my personal tuning experience is with Tadashi)...i only expressed that shawn uses e-manage and that he has done a lot of Hondas with no problems which is the truth (reference honda-tech, si.com, club rsx, etc)
man WTF damnnnnnnnnnnn that shiet mother fvcking PISSES ME DA FAWWK OFF right there, what sup with the disrespect? You trying to be funny or something?? Me and "my homies" ain't laughing. But hey lets keep it real, if your not trying to disrespect somehow than alright its cool no worries, if you are alright then for sure I'll keep that in mind
you know what pisses me off?
-my buddies in the middle east getting torn up because of oil.
-unemployed relatives who need money because of rich pig banks
-starving people in Africa getting shot begging for food
you know what makes me laugh:
"wah, wah, wah...you called me out on a car forum...wah,wah,wah...lets meet up...wah,wah,wah"
i personally love your posts...we don't get enough e-thugging in these forums. LOL.
ok seriously though: this is a forum to have fun in. whatever is typed can be read in a serious matter or not. it all depends on what the person does with it. and yes, at the heart of it we do agree piggys are not worth it. so shut up already...LOL.
btw-shawn is not MY tuner (my personal tuning experience is with Tadashi)...i only expressed that shawn uses e-manage and that he has done a lot of Hondas with no problems which is the truth (reference honda-tech, si.com, club rsx, etc)
01-02-2010, 04:36 AM
#43
Dude where are you trying to get with this? I dont smash anyone personally but only talk about products, and here you come in criticizing me personally and str8 attacking, what the hell. And no I'm not going to duke it out with you or call my car gang and you call your car gang, WHAT IN THE WORLD. E-Thugging? OMG. You straight talking shiet.
There you go again! Disrespecting! WTF
Hey, you know what, call my cell right now in my sig. HOW DA HELL DO YOU EXPECT ME TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR CRITICISM, ignore it and move on? Cause you keep going.
Hey, you know what, call my cell right now in my sig. HOW DA HELL DO YOU EXPECT ME TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR CRITICISM, ignore it and move on? Cause you keep going.
01-02-2010, 04:40 AM
#44
For anyone whether a manufactures, shop or a tuner that Recommends a piggy back system for a G37,370z or any Nissan product is simply doing a disservice to that person end of story .
Now if there was no other options or solutions then that is a different story, but with the current technology that being used today via the flash it's really plain stupid to use anything else .
Sorry for being so blunt but i think i need to be .
Back in 2007 in our G37 twin turbo development car We installed a complete stand alone (HKS Fcon vpro) on the car because there was no other option available then. And we got it done and it did work very well after spending close to 80 hours logging,monitoring and tinning although it can be tricky to work with we have overcome quite a few challenges, the amount of input the ecu looks at for all it logic is over whelming to say the least and using a piggy back system that takes the factory ecu inputs and outputs and try to manipulated is the wrong way of doing it in this platform plain and simple .
Now if there was no other options or solutions then that is a different story, but with the current technology that being used today via the flash it's really plain stupid to use anything else .
Sorry for being so blunt but i think i need to be .
Back in 2007 in our G37 twin turbo development car We installed a complete stand alone (HKS Fcon vpro) on the car because there was no other option available then. And we got it done and it did work very well after spending close to 80 hours logging,monitoring and tinning although it can be tricky to work with we have overcome quite a few challenges, the amount of input the ecu looks at for all it logic is over whelming to say the least and using a piggy back system that takes the factory ecu inputs and outputs and try to manipulated is the wrong way of doing it in this platform plain and simple .