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Goodbye to Waxing?

Old Mar 3, 2013 | 01:08 PM
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Goodbye to Waxing?

I'm thinking yes.

I bought a new G37XS BO coupe exactly one year ago, and the first thorough detail I gave it included topcoats of Blackfire Wet Diamond. I was so impressed with the finish and longevity of this product that I have never bothered to wax the car. Every other month or so I'd simply apply another coat of BWD, with detailing spray applications in between. (After all, wax is mostly for show and not really for protection, right?)

Personally, I'm thrilled not to be using wax anymore. My issues with wax...

1. While it looks fabulous after the application is done, parts of the car ALWAYS develop a "wax haze" days later, especially visible on black finishes.

2. If I understand correctly, if I apply wax over BWD, I can no longer apply future coats of BWD unless I strip off the wax (and everything else.) That seems completely counterproductive to me, especially when the shine between wax and BWD is absolutely the same to my eyes.

I'd be most interested in your thoughts and personal experiences on all points I've raised.
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Old Mar 10, 2013 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Tonewheel
I'm thinking yes.

I bought a new G37XS BO coupe exactly one year ago, and the first thorough detail I gave it included topcoats of Blackfire Wet Diamond. I was so impressed with the finish and longevity of this product that I have never bothered to wax the car. Every other month or so I'd simply apply another coat of BWD, with detailing spray applications in between. (After all, wax is mostly for show and not really for protection, right?)

Personally, I'm thrilled not to be using wax anymore. My issues with wax...

1. While it looks fabulous after the application is done, parts of the car ALWAYS develop a "wax haze" days later, especially visible on black finishes.

2. If I understand correctly, if I apply wax over BWD, I can no longer apply future coats of BWD unless I strip off the wax (and everything else.) That seems completely counterproductive to me, especially when the shine between wax and BWD is absolutely the same to my eyes.

I'd be most interested in your thoughts and personal experiences on all points I've raised.
I havent waxxed my car in about 3-4 years. The first 2-3 years I was using the Menzerna FMJ sealant and now I also use the BFWD Sealant. I picked up a bottle of the spray on sealant and I use that after normal washes for a quick touch up.

BFWD looks just like wax to me, only it lasts significantly longer.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 08:09 AM
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No need to wax unless your looking for that extra gloss depth. Just stick with a good sealant and detail spray and you should be good to go.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 09:21 AM
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I agree that BWD is great and has a really good shine and has very good longevity, but it doesn't look the same as wax. If you think it does, apply the BWD and top it with one or two coats of a good wax like their Midnight Sun or CG Pete's '53 and you should be able to see a distinct difference in the depth and gloss to it.

That being said, if you love the look of the BWD shine on it's own (it is awesome, I've used it for a couple of years now) and the depth of the gloss from wax doesn't improve the look in your eyes, you've saved yourself a lot of work by skipping the wax.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 09:51 AM
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I'll try this stuff. Have a cabinet full of detailing products... and always looking for something new.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 12:32 PM
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BFWD is great stuff so far one of the best sealants. I use it every season.
There is a slight difference between wax though. Wax still has a deeper glow or shine, even if it only lasts a short while. I have a platinum graphite and when I wax it looks like it marinates the paint and it makes the paint a bit darker and brings out the little metallic specs in the paint.

Whereas the sealant has a more of a shiny plastic look, but lasts for well over 4 months, I dont know if it goes longer I usually strip it off and start over at that time.
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 01:03 PM
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Very interested in this stuff. You just sold me on the product. Will give it a try. Does the paint still give the "just waxed" feeling?
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Old Mar 11, 2013 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by OB G
Very interested in this stuff. You just sold me on the product. Will give it a try. Does the paint still give the "just waxed" feeling?
OB, I think everyone here would agree that it far outperforms wax in term of slickness... crazy slick... and it lasts a very long time. I try to put on my last coat of the season (here in Chicago) just before Thanksgiving. It's still protecting by my first detail of the spring.

Easy on, easy off. The stuff is amazing, and I've used lots of products over the past 41 years.
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 06:24 AM
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Anyone care to tell those of us who don't know what brand this BFWD sealant is? I tried to google it but nothing come up.
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Old Mar 12, 2013 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by BosMaSwaG37
Anyone care to tell those of us who don't know what brand this BFWD sealant is? I tried to google it but nothing come up.
Blackfire
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Old Mar 15, 2013 | 08:59 PM
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Never heard of this product but i am definitely going to try it out
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 08:49 PM
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I use something similar called optiseal
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that's 1 coat of optiseal, however I will still be putting on some optimum car wax and some poor boys natty once in a while.
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Old Mar 28, 2013 | 10:06 PM
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Will definitely give it a try.
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 01:39 AM
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I like Optiseal too, good protection and the small 8oz bottle lasts forever.
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Old Mar 29, 2013 | 08:48 AM
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Sealant lasts longer but definitely doesn't give the wet lool or depth that a carnuaba or synthetic wax gives. Even in the pic posted above, though it looks like good, doesn't have the same shine or depth.
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