Goodbye to Waxing?
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Goodbye to Waxing?
I'm thinking yes.
I bought a new G37XS BO coupe exactly one year ago, and the first thorough detail I gave it included topcoats of Blackfire Wet Diamond. I was so impressed with the finish and longevity of this product that I have never bothered to wax the car. Every other month or so I'd simply apply another coat of BWD, with detailing spray applications in between. (After all, wax is mostly for show and not really for protection, right?)
Personally, I'm thrilled not to be using wax anymore. My issues with wax...
1. While it looks fabulous after the application is done, parts of the car ALWAYS develop a "wax haze" days later, especially visible on black finishes.
2. If I understand correctly, if I apply wax over BWD, I can no longer apply future coats of BWD unless I strip off the wax (and everything else.) That seems completely counterproductive to me, especially when the shine between wax and BWD is absolutely the same to my eyes.
I'd be most interested in your thoughts and personal experiences on all points I've raised.
I bought a new G37XS BO coupe exactly one year ago, and the first thorough detail I gave it included topcoats of Blackfire Wet Diamond. I was so impressed with the finish and longevity of this product that I have never bothered to wax the car. Every other month or so I'd simply apply another coat of BWD, with detailing spray applications in between. (After all, wax is mostly for show and not really for protection, right?)
Personally, I'm thrilled not to be using wax anymore. My issues with wax...
1. While it looks fabulous after the application is done, parts of the car ALWAYS develop a "wax haze" days later, especially visible on black finishes.
2. If I understand correctly, if I apply wax over BWD, I can no longer apply future coats of BWD unless I strip off the wax (and everything else.) That seems completely counterproductive to me, especially when the shine between wax and BWD is absolutely the same to my eyes.
I'd be most interested in your thoughts and personal experiences on all points I've raised.
I'm thinking yes.
I bought a new G37XS BO coupe exactly one year ago, and the first thorough detail I gave it included topcoats of Blackfire Wet Diamond. I was so impressed with the finish and longevity of this product that I have never bothered to wax the car. Every other month or so I'd simply apply another coat of BWD, with detailing spray applications in between. (After all, wax is mostly for show and not really for protection, right?)
Personally, I'm thrilled not to be using wax anymore. My issues with wax...
1. While it looks fabulous after the application is done, parts of the car ALWAYS develop a "wax haze" days later, especially visible on black finishes.
2. If I understand correctly, if I apply wax over BWD, I can no longer apply future coats of BWD unless I strip off the wax (and everything else.) That seems completely counterproductive to me, especially when the shine between wax and BWD is absolutely the same to my eyes.
I'd be most interested in your thoughts and personal experiences on all points I've raised.
I bought a new G37XS BO coupe exactly one year ago, and the first thorough detail I gave it included topcoats of Blackfire Wet Diamond. I was so impressed with the finish and longevity of this product that I have never bothered to wax the car. Every other month or so I'd simply apply another coat of BWD, with detailing spray applications in between. (After all, wax is mostly for show and not really for protection, right?)
Personally, I'm thrilled not to be using wax anymore. My issues with wax...
1. While it looks fabulous after the application is done, parts of the car ALWAYS develop a "wax haze" days later, especially visible on black finishes.
2. If I understand correctly, if I apply wax over BWD, I can no longer apply future coats of BWD unless I strip off the wax (and everything else.) That seems completely counterproductive to me, especially when the shine between wax and BWD is absolutely the same to my eyes.
I'd be most interested in your thoughts and personal experiences on all points I've raised.
BFWD looks just like wax to me, only it lasts significantly longer.
I agree that BWD is great and has a really good shine and has very good longevity, but it doesn't look the same as wax. If you think it does, apply the BWD and top it with one or two coats of a good wax like their Midnight Sun or CG Pete's '53 and you should be able to see a distinct difference in the depth and gloss to it.
That being said, if you love the look of the BWD shine on it's own (it is awesome, I've used it for a couple of years now) and the depth of the gloss from wax doesn't improve the look in your eyes, you've saved yourself a lot of work by skipping the wax.
That being said, if you love the look of the BWD shine on it's own (it is awesome, I've used it for a couple of years now) and the depth of the gloss from wax doesn't improve the look in your eyes, you've saved yourself a lot of work by skipping the wax.
BFWD is great stuff so far one of the best sealants. I use it every season.
There is a slight difference between wax though. Wax still has a deeper glow or shine, even if it only lasts a short while. I have a platinum graphite and when I wax it looks like it marinates the paint and it makes the paint a bit darker and brings out the little metallic specs in the paint.
Whereas the sealant has a more of a shiny plastic look, but lasts for well over 4 months, I dont know if it goes longer I usually strip it off and start over at that time.
There is a slight difference between wax though. Wax still has a deeper glow or shine, even if it only lasts a short while. I have a platinum graphite and when I wax it looks like it marinates the paint and it makes the paint a bit darker and brings out the little metallic specs in the paint.
Whereas the sealant has a more of a shiny plastic look, but lasts for well over 4 months, I dont know if it goes longer I usually strip it off and start over at that time.
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Easy on, easy off. The stuff is amazing, and I've used lots of products over the past 41 years.
Sealant lasts longer but definitely doesn't give the wet lool or depth that a carnuaba or synthetic wax gives. Even in the pic posted above, though it looks like good, doesn't have the same shine or depth.




