Do any of you guys ever use traditional suds (i used Maxi Suds II) with ONR. I tried it and it feels like it makes the surface more smooths while you are cleaning the car.

I also use ONR for clay bar lube and Quick detailer, love the stuff

 

Suds do not make the car wash safer. Lubricity does. ONR does not make suds but provides excellent protection against swirls and scratches when used properly including the 2 bucket wash method with grit guards.

 

Thats why I wrote about mixing the two together... Maxi Suds and ONR.