I think I will ask for a copy of the repair order before I make my decision. But 2k worth of damages and no discounts for that?

I'm deciding between a white one or a black one. Offer is similar on both. But I really want the blk coupe.

 

Good luck. But if I were the Sales Manager, I'd make decisions based solely on the lease arrangement, disinclined to factor in your post-lease purchase plans.

 

So if you were in my position? You wouldn't care about the accident on a new car if you were leasing?

 

its a trick question?

 

Not even a little bit. It's a lease. You do not own the car, and unless you're planning on buying the car, the repair record is irrelevant. Go ahead and enjoy the experience of driving a really awesome car, but leave it at that, man.

See, this is what's wrong with the general public leasing private transportation. They invariably establish a sense of "property" where none exists. The best most reasonable attitude about leasing a car is not to care... which is a difficult proposal for a car enthusiast. Damn near impossible, actually.

The way I see your original post, you have 3 scenarios available:

1. Get your dealership to renegotiate based on factors they could care less about. (unlikely)
2. Accept the terms of the lease as they are, and suck up the accident record should you decide to buy it out. (awkward)
3. Get your head right about what a Car Lease is all about. (difficult)

Again, good luck. Just my opinions, clutchfan. Old man opinions about someone else's problems, LOL.

 

Do you have them down to invoice price?

If they wont give you additional money off, what about free accessories or scheduled maintenance?

 

This.

Also $2000 worth of damage is pretty much nothing on new cars, repainting a bumper alone can be $1000.

 

Yes, but the book value of a car that receives a $2000 hit reduces by about $4-8k.

 

Well, there's your priority then. And you have your answer, right? You're more interested in the buyout, with a have-your-cake approach on the lease. And that's actually fine because no harm in trying. Money is money, after all.

Walk away, clutchfan. Or lease the white one. Besides, Moonlight White is much more classy.

 

If that's the approach you're taking with the dealer, good luck. I'd recommend just finding another car.

I disagree that a $2000 repair reduces the value of a car by $4-8000. A significant accident is absolutely going to impact the value. But $2000 is relatively minor.

 

agreed. $2k damage is mostly going to be cosmetic. you probably wouldn't even know if you weren't told about it.

 

The dealer can used that accident report for bargaining.... Bargaining will take time and that time , someone bought the car I like the same day. I would rather have on the advantage side than the dealer. Car had a 5 MPH rear end domino effect collision, so cost of insurance $2500 for bumper repair or replaced...

That time , the dealer showed me the list of comparable EX35 for sale within the given radius (50 miles?) and showed me the miles , if car had accident , and the trade in value. I know my car was worth $13,000-13,500 but the dealer started the low balling at $11,000 bec. of the accident report( no frame damage). They had the ball, but I decided to keep my car and lease Q40.

Did the OP said he might buy the car at the end? Or that was another member?

 

Since the OP plans to rent the car, why rent a car that is in pristine condition since he will be paying the same thing? (Same price undamage or not) Does not make sense.

Pay only for what it's worth.... Would you hire a hooker with nice white false teeth or with shinny natural teeth.

 

It sounds like you didn't or couldn't spend the time negotiating back and forth, and that you were after a specific car on a limited time frame. That removes leverage for you. It shouldn't be a blanket assumption that an accident--especially a minor one--automatically makes a car worth less. It made your car worth less because you didn't have time.

The dealer is almost always going to low ball you. It's in their best interests. Lots of people take the offer and don't do the back and forth.


Leverage the condition of your car, factory accessories that aren't included in the "book price", any recent maintenance or repairs you've made--brakes, tires, etc.

The Infiniti dealer offered me $2500 less what I thought my car was worth. Said it needed tires and minor reconditioning. I had all the maintenance receipts in the trunk, including one for recently purchased new tires. I requested the service department to measure the depth. Down 1/32 from manufacturer specs. Went over all the accessories--usb integration, interior illumination, short-throw-shifter, etc. Asked them to point out what needed reconditioning. Nothing. They raised their trade in value by $2000. It took a couple days back and forth. I was happy.

In the case of OP, bumping into the rear could have broke an LED tailight.....or a sonar sensor....or bent a muffler tip and required a whole new exhaust....It's not at all hard to ring up $2000. Labor is going to be $60/hour. Sales tax and misc shop fees are going to be 10% of the cost.

Assuming OP has them down to invoice, they're is no way he's going to get them to go $4-8,000 under that.

 

Lego Maniac? Are you retired? I found a nice used G37 that I was about to buy that day. After test driving it, I made an offer, but there was a guy who also test drove it after me and beat me, bec. the dealer offered me $11,000 for the my trade in due to accident. There where no time to haggle and the other guy bought it.... My sales man can go up to $13,000 which I would take , but the other guy is too fast. If my car did not have any accident report, he could have offered it to me at 13k right away. With accident report, dealer can play around with the numbers and for someone like you , you have more time, for most of us, it is not worth hanging in there for another 2+ hours. I had to drive 2 hours from WI to Illinois that day. I was there from 9am-4pm.....