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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 06:35 PM
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08 IP G37s
24 mos 1100 out of pocket 524.00 a month
6mt nav tech ras 15k

07 IP M35s
24 mos 1585 out of pocket 568.00 a month
sport nav tech rear entertainment aero things loaded

I love both these cars infniti rocks.
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. Sumtin Wong
From what I've been reading... most of the people on this forum (from a financial planner's point of view) ought to be purchasing USED Honda civics and paying them off in a year or two and be debt free for years. Do the young folks understand "opportunity cost" and "future value of money"? Instead of paying $7,000 per year in lease/finance costs on a G37... if you paid $3,000 per year on a car and invested the remaining $4,000 per year in an IRA... when it came to retire you'd have $500,000 per year for each year you chose to forego the car bling and invested $4,000! A 4-yr lease could be worth $2 MILLION in retirement (based on stock market 50 yr avg of 10.5%/yr).

Do the young folks understand this? You're not going to be young forever!

Dr.
Not everything is about money. I personally would rather enjoy my life as I live it rather then save every penny, drive a beater, wait til I'm 65 to retire & then be too old to be able to enjoy any of the money I have saved up. What a waste of life. I'd rather vacation every year, live in a nice house, drive nice cars, and work til I'm dead rather then pinch every penny, save all my money. Besides, all your savings can become worthless pretty quick as you can see with the state the economy is in.
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Old Oct 14, 2008 | 09:26 PM
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^^^ nicely put. i concur.
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Old Oct 17, 2008 | 12:59 AM
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I agree, I was being really frugal with a well paying job driving a beater and it really sucks. You have to enjoy life, you only got one shot at it. I am now shopping for a g37, just saving up for the downpayment.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 03:36 PM
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Dying with loads of money in the bank is just a bad as dying penniless.
$440 @ 2.9apr
Loaded minus 4WAS
The amount of fun i've had driving -- priceless.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyRuskie
Not everything is about money. I personally would rather enjoy my life as I live it rather then save every penny, drive a beater, wait til I'm 65 to retire & then be too old to be able to enjoy any of the money I have saved up. What a waste of life. I'd rather vacation every year, live in a nice house, drive nice cars, and work til I'm dead rather then pinch every penny, save all my money. Besides, all your savings can become worthless pretty quick as you can see with the state the economy is in.
agree, you cant bring the money with you to your grave. what the heck are you going to do with a load of cash when you are 70 year old? you cant get any younger so spend spend spend it when you are young.
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 05:57 PM
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$2,500 down
$550/month 60months
0.9%
My buddy works at the dealership I bought it from, I was lucky enough to pay employee pricing
$34,500 out the door
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Old Oct 20, 2008 | 08:43 PM
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Reasonable lease deal

I have negotiated the following:
Invoice + $300
No sales tax (normally 6.25% added to capital cost)
'08 G37 Coupe, w/Premium but not much else

$480/mo for 39 months, 15k/yr miles, no other costs (down, security, etc).
Saving sales tax in Texas is like gettingit for $2,000 below invoice. Normally
there is cost to the buy down of the sales tax, but they are covering that.

MSRP is 40,005. Black with Graphite interior.

Thoughts?

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Old Oct 21, 2008 | 07:18 PM
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just got mine today 2008 g37 6mt with every option possible plus 2 sets of mats winter rubber mats and cloth mats plus some little accessiores thrown in. 43,000 out the door plus maintanance package for 60,000 miles, so i dont pay for any services until 30,000 miles. plus i got 0.9 financing. from jimcoleman infiniti over in bethesda md.
monthly 560 a month for 4 yrs put down 15k
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Old Oct 23, 2008 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyRuskie
I personally would rather enjoy my life as I live it rather then save every penny, drive a beater, wait til I'm 65 to retire & then be too old to be able to enjoy any of the money I have saved up. What a waste of life. I'd rather vacation every year, live in a nice house, drive nice cars, and work til I'm dead rather then pinch every penny, save all my money.
You're the poster boy for the poor idiot in "Rich Dad, Poor Dad" As long as you pay your monthly rent (lease) from interest off your investment account then I have no problem with your theory. If, on the other hand, you are making payments from your paycheck (and NOT from spinoff from investments) then you are a idiot... as I first thought!

Dr. (I don't want to keep you guessing. Guess which dad you'll end up? Poor and an idiot I'd say! )
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 12:03 AM
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Yes I'm such an idiot... ROFL you know nothing about me. I couldn't care less what the book Rich Dad, Poor Dad teaches. I live my life how I want to, comfortably.

Exactly why are you driving a G37? Why not keep driving your beater civic and saving money?

Quick question... how old were you when you bought your first piece of real estate?

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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by CrazyRuskie
Yes I'm such an idiot... ROFL you know nothing about me. I couldn't care less what the book Rich Dad, Poor Dad teaches. I live my life how I want to, comfortably.

Exactly why are you driving a G37? Why not keep driving your beater civic and saving money?

Quick question... how old were you when you bought your first piece of real estate?

You know Dr. Sumtin Wong wasn't attacking you, right? He was just making a general statement about saving money. Now, I don't completely agree with his point of view, mostly because:

1) As an upwardly mobile 25 year-old, I won't garner a millionaire's respect in a '92 civic. Sometimes you have look rich to become rich. Thus, the G37 will help me close deals that would have otherwise been lost.

and

2) Factoring the same rate of inflation that we've had over the past 50 years (anyone remember when a soda was a nickel?) into the next 50 years, that (supposed) $2 million ain't gonna buy you squat. Use your own notion of opportunity cost to figure out how that money could have been put to muuuuch greater use.

However, again, the nice Dr. was just being polite and giving you financial advice, which he does for a living. No need to lunge at his throat for it.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 02:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Fooz
You know Dr. Sumtin Wong wasn't attacking you, right? He was just making a general statement about saving money. Now, I don't completely agree with his point of view, mostly because:

1) As an upwardly mobile 25 year-old, I won't garner a millionaire's respect in a '92 civic. Sometimes you have look rich to become rich. Thus, the G37 will help me close deals that would have otherwise been lost.

and

2) Factoring the same rate of inflation that we've had over the past 50 years (anyone remember when a soda was a nickel?) into the next 50 years, that (supposed) $2 million ain't gonna buy you squat. Use your own notion of opportunity cost to figure out how that money could have been put to muuuuch greater use.

However, again, the nice Dr. was just being polite and giving you financial advice, which he does for a living. No need to lunge at his throat for it.
Wise words from a wise man. Fooz is right - the Dr. he's just trying to be helpful. Sumtin wong with that???
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 02:50 AM
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^^ Did you read his post? If that isn't attacking, I don't know what is.
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Old Oct 24, 2008 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by batmobile
$2,500 down
$550/month 60months
0.9%
My buddy works at the dealership I bought it from, I was lucky enough to pay employee pricing
$34,500 out the door
you lucky bitch! that's such a steal. I'm paying $108 more a month with 0.9% for 60 months with 5k down. You suck!
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