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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 09:11 AM
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Question Need Help making up mind Coils VS Spring/Struts

so i i have reached 80k on my oem shocks and idk if i am used to car since i been driving it for so long but i am starting feel every bump and it feels bouncy i dont remember it feeling this way. Currently using 19' wheels with 245/40/19 also have a RWD sway if that makes any difference.. The big dilemma i am facing is if to go with springs and kyb struts or some good coil-over was looking into the stance with swift spring upgrade i wish i can go swift springs and koni yellows but unfortunately i am AWD and as far all research i have gathered only options if going with springs is KYB or OEM struts?

I am essentially wanting a comfy ride maybe not as floaty as oem but comfortable i do not want to slam the car just the most conservative drop possible i guess would be 1'. any experts on the matter please feel free chime in, what the best way to go coil or springs maintaining the closest to oem feel? HELP PLEASE!
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 10:33 AM
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Suspension is one of those things it comes to personal choice, cost, and plan for the car. You can check out the suspension forum, specifically the AWD coilover options sticky, to see the various coilover setups that will fit AWD, unfortunately we are limited in that area compared to the RWD guys. My goal was similar to you when I first got my G as it was my daily driver at the time. I simply just put on swift springs and called it a day. It was much nicer than stock, firmer, cut some of the wheel gap and was inexpensive. I left it that way a couple years, now my G is a second car so I wanted to get more out of it. I switched to Fortune Auto coilovers with Swift upgrade. I stuck with the OE setup (i.e. divorced damper/spring in the rear). Obviously you get a lot of adjustability to dial in things just as you want. If doing it yourself, coilover install involves a little more work, as there is more to consider with respect to desired ride height, ride quality (soft/firm), making sure your consistent side to side (digital calipers are great to be exact). Its also a good idea before starting to make sure you can break loose all your nuts/bolts, especially anything that runs through a bushing as there is a possibility of freezing solid. Good luck with whatever you decide.
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Old Aug 4, 2019 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by KidJai06
Suspension is one of those things it comes to personal choice, cost, and plan for the car. You can check out the suspension forum, specifically the AWD coilover options sticky, to see the various coilover setups that will fit AWD, unfortunately we are limited in that area compared to the RWD guys. My goal was similar to you when I first got my G as it was my daily driver at the time. I simply just put on swift springs and called it a day. It was much nicer than stock, firmer, cut some of the wheel gap and was inexpensive. I left it that way a couple years, now my G is a second car so I wanted to get more out of it. I switched to Fortune Auto coilovers with Swift upgrade. I stuck with the OE setup (i.e. divorced damper/spring in the rear). Obviously you get a lot of adjustability to dial in things just as you want. If doing it yourself, coilover install involves a little more work, as there is more to consider with respect to desired ride height, ride quality (soft/firm), making sure your consistent side to side (digital calipers are great to be exact). Its also a good idea before starting to make sure you can break loose all your nuts/bolts, especially anything that runs through a bushing as there is a possibility of freezing solid. Good luck with whatever you decide.

you think full coil over are better? more comfy ride i dont mind stiffer but just not so harsh you know what i mean?
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 05:33 AM
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If you want comfy just get set of koni yellows and set dampener to soft
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 08:47 AM
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I highly recommend you attempt to drive a vehicle with coil overs before going that route. If the G is your primary driver and you're spending a lot of time in the car to and from work then coilovers are probably not for you.

I have the Fortune 500 setup on my car and while it looks great and the car drives fantastic on perfect (and I mean perfect) roads, the ride is very stiff and you will feel everything even on the softest setting. Wide tires also play a part, I'm running a 255/40 square set up now and compared to the OEM 225/55(?) and the road feel has increased ten fold. Admittingly, I'm an enthusiast who will accept performance and cosmetic enhancements at the cost of NVH and comfort. I drove around with a muffler delete with OEM piping for quite awhile before I got an exhaust and didn't mind the drone for 50 miles each way to work. After 6k miles, I'm waiving the white flag on coil overs. I can't do it anymore. As soon as I can pick up new KYB struts and lowering springs I'll be making the switch and posting the Fortune 500s FS.

I had the idea that I'd track the car and convinced myself to go the coil over route; plus, I'd never had them installed on a car before and wanted to see what it was like. If your commute is short, you're not going to be driving on garbage roads, or tracking the car then coilovers can be very rewarding. As a DD and commuting there is simply no point.
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Surfnazi
If you want comfy just get set of koni yellows and set dampener to soft

if i could i would but i have x sedan awd. i think i am going to go with swift springs matched with kyb
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RMB5190
I highly recommend you attempt to drive a vehicle with coil overs before going that route. If the G is your primary driver and you're spending a lot of time in the car to and from work then coilovers are probably not for you.

I have the Fortune 500 setup on my car and while it looks great and the car drives fantastic on perfect (and I mean perfect) roads, the ride is very stiff and you will feel everything even on the softest setting. Wide tires also play a part, I'm running a 255/40 square set up now and compared to the OEM 225/55(?) and the road feel has increased ten fold. Admittingly, I'm an enthusiast who will accept performance and cosmetic enhancements at the cost of NVH and comfort. I drove around with a muffler delete with OEM piping for quite awhile before I got an exhaust and didn't mind the drone for 50 miles each way to work. After 6k miles, I'm waiving the white flag on coil overs. I can't do it anymore. As soon as I can pick up new KYB struts and lowering springs I'll be making the switch and posting the Fortune 500s FS.

I had the idea that I'd track the car and convinced myself to go the coil over route; plus, I'd never had them installed on a car before and wanted to see what it was like. If your commute is short, you're not going to be driving on garbage roads, or tracking the car then coilovers can be very rewarding. As a DD and commuting there is simply no point.

hey RMB thanks for that. Pretty much sums it up. Definitely do not want to go that route. Springs it is !
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 12:44 PM
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Have you called koni
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Surfnazi
Have you called koni

no why can they custom built them?
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 01:52 PM
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guys only other concern i have is the camber kit will ineed one if so rear or front!?
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 02:12 PM
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Depends on the depth of the drop but you will almost certainly require kits for the front and rear; as well as aftermarket toe bolts for the rear. You might be able to stay within spec but it really doesn't make sense to take the chance. If you're somewhat mechanically inclined, you can install all three parts at cost and a weekend's worth of your time.
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Originally Posted by RMB5190
Depends on the depth of the drop but you will almost certainly require kits for the front and rear; as well as aftermarket toe bolts for the rear. You might be able to stay within spec but it really doesn't make sense to take the chance. If you're somewhat mechanically inclined, you can install all three parts at cost and a weekend's worth of your time.
well drop with swifts springs i think is like little over inch in front and 1' in rear?
yea might as well get it all done one shot. so both front and rear huh thought i read it was one side couldn't recall but i guess both. I am going look this parts up now is that the exact wording camber kit rear , front?
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 03:06 PM
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is there anything else i should change while working in the suspension? bushings etc? already did my brakes. haven't done anything in suspension area since the age of the car 10 yrs.
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 03:57 PM
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Be wary of the drop claims companies make. It's usually more once the springs settle. I'd look at pictures/reviews people post after having springs installed for awhile to get a true idea of what to expect. Also, some people have 'saggy bottom' syndrome after a drop. I'm sure you'll see what I'm talking about once you start looking into it. You can pick up a set of energy poly bushings to give the rear the lift it may need. If you go with springs and are affected by the saggy rear, I can PM you info on that as I have it saved.

You can find the latest reviews in this section of the forums. A lot of people go with SPL or SPC. I've seen some having luck with eBay brands such as Megan, Godspeed, etc... I've yet to do my fronts. I have the SPC kit on the rear now. I'm able to get the toe pretty close to factory but without the front camber kit, I can only get the camber to -2 in the front and -1 in the rear.

I would do a visual inspection to see if the bushings need replaced or not. Should be centered on the pinion on the side the attaches to the rear sub frame. Also, on the subject, look up how to re-clock bushings after lowering a car in order to prolong the life of any bushing after a drop.
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Old Aug 5, 2019 | 08:06 PM
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Swifts and kyb is your best bet if your looking to keep a bit of comfort. I currently run the setup and it's very close to stock comfort wise.


Here's a couple pics of the ride height
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