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Old Mar 17, 2016 | 11:39 AM
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I've had two different staggered setups on my car over about a 10k mile range. No issues so far with either. The current 245/45/19 and 275/40/19 setup is exactly 27.7" tall.
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Old Mar 17, 2016 | 06:18 PM
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Old Apr 4, 2016 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by blnewt
It would be good to have long term feedback, especially if there were certain tire combos that may have started out ok and caused issues as they wore down.
FWIW Here's the best tire combos I'd recommend for 18s/19s/20s, then pick proper wheel widths/offsets to get them to fit~
18s
235/45 & 265/40 (0.07%)
245/45 & 275/40 -0.07%
255/45 & 285/40 -0.22%

19s
235/40 & 265/35 -0.37%
235/40 & 275/35 0.67%
245/40 & 275/35 -0.52%
245/40 & 28535 0.51%

20s
235/35 & 275/30 0.07%
245/35 & 285/30 -0.07%

This calculator should be used when trying new setups~
https://www.myg37.com/forums/tire_rim_calculator.php

Keep in mind the variances with a minus sign have smaller rear diameters, this isn't as good since the rears wear faster, this will cause the variance to increase over time. Not a big deal when you're starting at zero or close, but if you're already almost at 1% variance this needs to be considered. None of the above combos should have enough rear wear to be a issue but
Just wanted to thank you for this post! Really useful information.
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 11:52 AM
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Old Jun 19, 2018 | 03:00 PM
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No Issues
How many miles is this?
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Old Aug 6, 2020 | 01:06 PM
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Anyone seeing or notice any negative effects ? Got my eye on 225/45/19 front and 245/40/19 rear for my awd just want to know if anyone’s had long term since this was last visited
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Old Aug 7, 2020 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DMM37
Anyone seeing or notice any negative effects ? Got my eye on 225/45/19 front and 245/40/19 rear for my awd just want to know if anyone’s had long term since this was last visited
I think you are better off with 225/45 & 255/40. Its a much nicer pairing dimensionally as it is almost identical circumference, vs. a little over -1% with a 225/45 - 245/40, meaning the rear would be slightly smaller in diameter, which you have to remember will likely grow over time as the rear tires tend to wear a little faster than the front. I have been running staggered 225/45 - 255/40 for a little over two years without any issues.
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Old Aug 8, 2020 | 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by KidJai06
I think you are better off with 225/45 & 255/40. Its a much nicer pairing dimensionally as it is almost identical circumference, vs. a little over -1% with a 225/45 - 245/40, meaning the rear would be slightly smaller in diameter, which you have to remember will likely grow over time as the rear tires tend to wear a little faster than the front. I have been running staggered 225/45 - 255/40 for a little over two years without any issues.

what about if I ran 225/40 245/40?
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Old Aug 8, 2020 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by DMM37
what about if I ran 225/40 245/40?
No I wouldn’t do that, that puts you at a 2.3% variance which might not sound like a lot but it means that over the course of a mile the front tires would have something like 19 more rotations than the rear. This increases the likelihood of the AWD system having issues. The goal is to keep variance as close to 0 as possible with a general rule of thumb to not go over 1%... and ideally the taller tire would be in the rear as over time it would wear a little faster and get closer to 0%. Our site has a nice Tire/Rim calculator where you can plug in the different tire/wheel sizes and offsets to compare and see what would be best.

Curious, why you’re thinking about going staggered? A square setup is probably a little more ideal if the G is your daily driver. You could always run 245/40 all the way around. It’s a really common tire size so there are lots of options and then you can more readily rotate them. Staggered is nice for going wider in the rear for some extra traction or if you have a wider wheel. I’m actually likely to switch to 245/40 & 285/35.
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Old Jul 20, 2021 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by blnewt
It would be good to have long term feedback, especially if there were certain tire combos that may have started out ok and caused issues as they wore down.
FWIW Here's the best tire combos I'd recommend for 18s/19s/20s, then pick proper wheel widths/offsets to get them to fit~
18s
235/45 & 265/40 (0.07%)
245/45 & 275/40 -0.07%
255/45 & 285/40 -0.22%

19s
225/45 & 255/40 0.06%
235/40 & 265/35 -0.37%
235/40 & 275/35 0.67%
245/40 & 275/35 -0.52%
245/40 & 285/35 0.51%

20s
235/35 & 275/30 0.07%
245/35 & 285/30 -0.07%

This calculator should be used when trying new setups~
https://www.myg37.com/forums/tire_rim_calculator.php

Keep in mind the variances with a minus sign have smaller rear diameters, this isn't as good since the rears wear faster, this will cause the variance to increase over time. Not a big deal when you're starting at zero or close, but if you're already almost at 1% variance this needs to be considered. None of the above combos should have enough rear wear to be a issue but
thanks for this. I Just got some 370z Nismo wheels 19x9.5 +40
19x10.5+23 and have been looking for tire combos.

13 g37xs
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Old Aug 27, 2023 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jfisher
I've had two different staggered setups on my car over about a 10k mile range. No issues so far with either. The current 245/45/19 and 275/40/19 setup is exactly 27.7" tall.
I recently purchased a brand new set of wheels 19x9.5 +22. They came wrapped in Continental DWS06+ 245/45/19 275/40/19. They were originally intended for a G37 coupe RWD. My 14’ Q60 S Coupe is AWD though. I just want to make sure, before writing them off and having to buy a new set of tires, that they’ll work without any issues.? Thanks!
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Old Aug 28, 2023 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by wrkls_
I recently purchased a brand new set of wheels 19x9.5 +22. They came wrapped in Continental DWS06+ 245/45/19 275/40/19. They were originally intended for a G37 coupe RWD. My 14’ Q60 S Coupe is AWD though. I just want to make sure, before writing them off and having to buy a new set of tires, that they’ll work without any issues.? Thanks!
Those tires have matching rolling diameters and will be no issues for your awd. Its a bit taller than the oem diameter (~26.7 inch). Those tires have a diameter of ~27.7 inch, about an inch taller. There's no real negatives to this other than your speedometer will be slightly off and depending how low you are, may limit clearance, but no significant.
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Old Jul 8, 2024 | 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by projectpanda13
Those tires have matching rolling diameters and will be no issues for your awd. Its a bit taller than the oem diameter (~26.7 inch). Those tires have a diameter of ~27.7 inch, about an inch taller. There's no real negatives to this other than your speedometer will be slightly off and depending how low you are, may limit clearance, but no significant.
I seen a really nice setup on a RWD G37. They were using 265/35/19 front and 275/35/19 rear. Is this fine for AWD?
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Old Jul 8, 2024 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Rodnie
I seen a really nice setup on a RWD G37. They were using 265/35/19 front and 275/35/19 rear. Is this fine for AWD?
the diameter difference between those two sizes is roughly 1.1% But this is just the nominal size.

because every tire model varies with the actual tire diameter so the real diameter percentage difference can be more or less.

I always recommend to stay under 1% but 1.1% is pretty close and shouldn't cause problems with awd. I am starting to find that having the larger diameter in the rear seems to be better also.
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