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Old Sep 21, 2011 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ANMVQ
No you will need a kit, I just installed my rims and tires last week and went back for alingment. WAY out!! I'm looking for a kit -Front and rears now. Oh Drop is Eibachs, 19 inch wheels.
Hmm...I'm still debating what I should do. It seems like the slight majority of people on here say that you don't need a camber kit with Eibachs. But based on my tread wear, either they are completely wrong, the dude who did my alignment didn't do it right (Darin @ West End, who is well known for his work so I'm doubting that...although he doesn't use a machine), or my alignment was somehow thrown off since I last did it (December 2009...which is also doubtful).

I got a quote for the Ichiba camber kit and I'm debating what I should do.

Also, I'm thinking about dismounting my tires from the front wheels and swapping them (facing same direction, but wear would be on opposite side of the wheel...basically old left inside would end up being new right outside and visa versa). Is this a bad idea? I have the Ventus V12's (which are not directional AFAIK).
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Old Sep 23, 2011 | 01:59 PM
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My ventus v12's are directional.

Get the camber kit and do it right the first time. I easily had another 10k miles left in my factory tires and had I done a camber kit the first time I could have saved up some more money before buying new tires.
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Old Sep 26, 2011 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by chasemyaccord
Hmm...I'm still debating what I should do. It seems like the slight majority of people on here say that you don't need a camber kit with Eibachs. But based on my tread wear, either they are completely wrong, the dude who did my alignment didn't do it right (Darin @ West End, who is well known for his work so I'm doubting that...although he doesn't use a machine), or my alignment was somehow thrown off since I last did it (December 2009...which is also doubtful).

I got a quote for the Ichiba camber kit and I'm debating what I should do.

Also, I'm thinking about dismounting my tires from the front wheels and swapping them (facing same direction, but wear would be on opposite side of the wheel...basically old left inside would end up being new right outside and visa versa). Is this a bad idea? I have the Ventus V12's (which are not directional AFAIK).

Like stated above, Get the camber kit and do it right the first time Just got mine,Front, rear and rear camber bolts for under$500 shipped. Eibach kit too.
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Old Sep 27, 2011 | 04:22 AM
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Hopefully i dont need to get cambered. I ride on 20's i have over 5000 miles and they are still wearing out evenly unless that changes drastically like in the 10000 mark. Everyone is saying put the camber kit... i guess do it. We should make a thread with people that actually have uneven wear on their tires and if they have camber kit or not. might be helpful. unless its been done already
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Old Nov 8, 2011 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by G37sEugene
Guys,

Did the search button and cant really come up with anything solid. If i do the Eibach pro kit springs on my 2008 g37s coupe, do i need to get camber kit on rears or fronts or both?

I would like to know the advantages or disadvantages of running springs with or without the camber kits.

Eugene
I have the eibach pro kit for about a year so far and I just had to replace the rear tires after about 15k miles. I ordered a eibach pro alignment kit from stillen which they assure it would fit.... Guess what? The convertible has the shock mounted to the arm that is replaced and the new arm has no where to mount the shock. So for anyone out there with a convertible DONT order the eibach/SPC pro alignment kit part # 5.72260K. Anyone that knows of a kit that fits the convertible please let me know...
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 09:10 AM
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I am about to order the eibach (or maybe tien S they seem about the same). Can anyone definitively say if they got their car aligned via a machine successfully without camber kit? I understand doing it properly but its an alignment, camber kit is there to give extra room to adjust if required to get it aligned. I don't want to needlessly purchase if its not required to bring into alignment.
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 10:51 AM
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2008 G35S 6MT on 20's
Eibach ProKit - no front or rear camber kit.
A good shop can get it within (or very close) spec.

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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by G37sEugene
Guys,

Did the search button and cant really come up with anything solid. If i do the Eibach pro kit springs on my 2008 g37s coupe, do i need to get camber kit on rears or fronts or both?

I would like to know the advantages or disadvantages of running springs with or without the camber kits.

Eugene

Here is the advantage:
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https://www.myg37.com/forums/brakes-...ignment-2.html
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Old Nov 19, 2011 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by rpm&my_G35
2008 G35S 6MT on 20's
Eibach ProKit - no front or rear camber kit.
A good shop can get it within (or very close) spec.
Thats not close.
This is with arms installed:

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Old Nov 20, 2011 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TVPostSound
Thats not close.
How are his not close. The camber spec limits are Fr-1.2 & Rr- 1.8. My friend is at Fr -1.5&-1.7 and Rr -1.9&2.3. That seems pretty close too me. Toe and castor adjustments look to be within spec and as good as yours.
After 2 years, he has no unusual tire wear and the money saved (not spent on kits) will pay for a new set of tires...when he needs them.
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by rpm&my_G35
How are his not close. The camber spec limits are Fr-1.2 & Rr- 1.8. My friend is at Fr -1.5&-1.7 and Rr -1.9&2.3. That seems pretty close too me. Toe and castor adjustments look to be within spec and as good as yours.
After 2 years, he has no unusual tire wear and the money saved (not spent on kits) will pay for a new set of tires...when he needs them.
Close means within the limits, not outside.
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 01:35 AM
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-2.3 camber isn't in factory specs... This eibach camber kit debate will never end! If you want to be in "factory specs" yes you need them. And the comment about the eibachs being the same as the tein s techs. The teins drop you low. That's what I'm on. My camber is at -2.5 front and -3.8 and -4 rear. I got an alignment and my toe is good. The camber can't be adjusted without any kits. Btw even with good toe my tires wear fast. So if people tell you camber doesn't wear tires, their wrong!
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by TVPostSound
Close means within the limits, not outside.
Not in the context I used the word.
Look up the definition of the word close (adj).
I originally said a good shop can get it within or very close to spec which is very different than completely within factory spec. Some of my friends alignment specs are within and some are just outside, ie close.
You don't need to buy a camber kit but sure, it's recommended.
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 09:39 AM
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WOW its 2015! I have just worn out my tires in the inner front real bad! The actual reading was front LT camber -1.6 and toe -.36 and right front camber -1.9 and toe .02

Wheel alignment told me that the toe was killing the tires? Is this BS or a fact?

Post is now front camber -1.7 and toe is .04 and front right camber is -1.8 and toe is .03.

Both tires were bad! So if the toe was good in the first place in the right front, sounds like BS to me.


I now have the 225/45/19 from General G Max AS3 with 20mm H & R spacers. He said I'm good now, because the toe fix it? These tires have a 40K mile guarantee, what are the chances of getting 40K out of it. Do I need the front camber kit and will it hit my fender with my eibach pro kit and 20mm spacers with a camber kit?

Thanks!!!
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Old Apr 15, 2015 | 10:31 AM
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Bump^ ^ help!
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