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Old Oct 22, 2017 | 02:32 PM
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Actually those are great tires for all around DD, unless you drive , say under 10k a year and then can make the more expensive tires last..but otherwise it is an unnecessary expense if you are not driving the car somewhat spirited at all times...
- btw what pads are you using with rotors and do they dust up a lot?
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Old Oct 22, 2017 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by G37sPhoton
Actually those are great tires for all around DD, unless you drive , say under 10k a year and then can make the more expensive tires last..but otherwise it is an unnecessary expense if you are not driving the car somewhat spirited at all times...
The BBK is unnecessary, 330 hp is unnecessary, heck the entire RWD Sport Package is unnecessary. There might be good reasons for using cheap A/S tires on a sport sedan in LA, like maybe they were free and the OP is broke... but the lack of "necessity" isn't one of them. Come on, man. With that argument, might as well start pumping 87 and hypermiling.


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Its basically my get around car. This is my like my 5th or 6th G. I'm too old, been around a long time. I'd prefer to mod for speed than looks honestly.
Was that the self-deprecating humor that was missing, or a Freudian slip? I can't tell anymore.

You know what? Good luck in all your automotive projects, OP. Enjoy your 5th or 6th G.


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Old Oct 22, 2017 | 05:07 PM
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[QUOTE=Rochester;4164280]The BBK is unnecessary, 330 hp is unnecessary, heck the entire RWD Sport Package is unnecessary. There might be good reasons for using cheap A/S tires on a sport sedan in LA, like maybe they were free and the OP is broke... but the lack of "necessity" isn't one of them. Come on, man. With that argument, might as well start pumping 87 and hypermiling.




it seems that your idea of components is based on your personal preferences and expectations and if not near those parameters then you are on a' whats the point' view ..get a grip, not everyone that is modding their car has the same intentions, needs ,values or dare i say priorities...bottom line- good tires for the car but guess not expensive enough to meet chesters mod parameters...but using your response logic- -unnecessary was your opinion on a thread that was about rotors...and somehow you decided to try to be witty and bark at the tires...truly a court jester at best...
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Old Oct 22, 2017 | 10:01 PM
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So you sacrificed surface area and mass for holes

Where were the rotors made?
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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 12:59 PM
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So you sacrificed surface area and mass for holes

Where were the rotors made?
Don't knock em' till' you try em'. These rotors are made for performance driving and stopping. I can feel suddenness in my stopping power compared to the OEM rotors..There is a reason cars like Porsche and so forth have slotted and drilled!

And like i said for the umpteenth time. NO SQUEAKING! That in it self is worth it.
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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 01:02 PM
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The BBK is unnecessary, 330 hp is unnecessary, heck the entire RWD Sport Package is unnecessary. There might be good reasons for using cheap A/S tires on a sport sedan in LA, like maybe they were free and the OP is broke... but the lack of "necessity" isn't one of them. Come on, man. With that argument, might as well start pumping 87 and hypermiling.




Was that the self-deprecating humor that was missing, or a Freudian slip? I can't tell anymore.

You know what? Good luck in all your automotive projects, OP. Enjoy your 5th or 6th G.

Someone mentioned my duckfeet, as in my all season tires. I don't care anymore about rims, to me the factory setup works just fine for me and they look nice to me. Maybe a 1 inch drop all way around. I'm not 28 anymore, so I don't care about some of the things you care about. I just want a clean fast car.
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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 01:49 PM
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Here is what it looks like full picture.


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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by FlameOn
Don't knock em' till' you try em'. These rotors are made for performance driving and stopping. I can feel suddenness in my stopping power compared to the OEM rotors..There is a reason cars like Porsche and so forth have slotted and drilled!

And like i said for the umpteenth time. NO SQUEAKING! That in it self is worth it.
No need to try them. Generally speaking, I don't downgrade my cars components.

Last I checked, OE rotors were made in Japan. Your Chinese "drilled" rotors arent even in the same league, from a manufacturing and design perspective, as Porsche rotors.
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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Lego_Maniac
No need to try them. Generally speaking, I don't downgrade my cars components.

Last I checked, OE rotors were made in Japan. Your Chinese "drilled" rotors arent even in the same league, from a manufacturing and design perspective, as Porsche rotors.

Okay dude! I like them, that's all that matters. So much so I was bold enough to give my mechanic my OEM rotors because I will never come back to them again. Don't have time to sell them.
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 05:01 PM
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I used to be a "slotted and drilled' believer, but brake pads don't gas up when braking under extreme loads like old materials, and the venting that helps is internal to the rotor, not external. drilling and slotting just limits the ability to resurface the rotor, and reduces the surface area (heat absorption).

IMO, you cant beat blank rotors.
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Chaluska
I used to be a "slotted and drilled' believer, but brake pads don't gas up when braking under extreme loads like old materials, and the venting that helps is internal to the rotor, not external. drilling and slotting just limits the ability to resurface the rotor, and reduces the surface area (heat absorption).

IMO, you cant beat blank rotors.
I have StopTech drilled / slotted rotors, for no other reason other than I like the way they look lol. I do agree its almost 100% pointless.

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I'm not sure what's more cringe inducing. The fact that iCrap can't use context clues to figure out what he's saying or FlameOn legitimately getting annoyed from being flamed on for spelling.
I'm pretty sure you missed that I was just messing with him
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I noted the mispelling, not iCrap. Put blame where it's due.
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Originally Posted by FlameOn
Someone mentioned my duckfeet, as in my all season tires. I don't care anymore about rims, to me the factory setup works just fine for me and they look nice to me. Maybe a 1 inch drop all way around. I'm not 28 anymore, so I don't care about some of the things you care about. I just want a clean fast car.
I was the one who complimented you on the like-new condition of your duckfeet. To take that further, I think it's respectable when someone takes good care of their wheels, even OEM wheels.

The factory setup works just fine for you, but then it doesn't in the very next breath.

You just age-shamed everyone 28 years old or younger. You then inaccurately applied that age-shaming to a 53 year old family man, which was truly bizarre.

You want a clean fast car, but hobble it with A/S tires, and rotors that add nothing but cosmetics. Not that there's anything wrong with cosmetic nonsense, because I've got my fair share of that, along with some genuine performance modifications. But let's call it for what it is, and not for what people want it to be.


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And like i said for the umpteenth time. NO SQUEAKING! That in it self is worth it.
No, you said that twice. That's not what "umpteenth" means. And any brake service with new components would have addressed that problem.


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Don't knock em' till' you try em'. These rotors are made for performance driving and stopping. I can feel suddenness in my stopping power compared to the OEM rotors..There is a reason cars like Porsche and so forth have slotted and drilled!
Slotted and drilled rotors on high-end Porsches are vastly better engineered than the inexpensive one-piece rotors you've got here, and even then they are pointless on the street, where the design benefits are only realized when you run that Porsche on the track, probably with your other Porsche buddies. (Which I have none. No wait, I have one, almost forgot.) The point being, you are not stopping any better than if you put brand new OEM blanks on the car.

OP, before you get your flame on, stop and realize that I'm not attacking you personally (Hello, Photon!), I'm just commenting on your comments and the topic at hand. If there's something here I'm wrong about, have at it... it's a relatively open forum. But I think it's fairly spot-on.

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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 09:35 PM
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i prefer just slotted.
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Old Oct 25, 2017 | 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by G37sPhoton
Actually those are great tires for all around DD, unless you drive , say under 10k a year and then can make the more expensive tires last..but otherwise it is an unnecessary expense if you are not driving the car somewhat spirited at all times...
- btw what pads are you using with rotors and do they dust up a lot?
Unless you regularly see sub40 temperatures, A/S tires compromise all aspects of car handling in both dry and wet weather. Even if you do get regular sub40 temperatures a set of summer wheels/tires and a set of winter wheels/tires is better as A/S tires are essentially just as useless as Summer tires in snow.
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