So frustrated!! Brake Roors not fitting
#1
So frustrated!! Brake Roors not fitting
Bandit here. Have stoptech drilled and slotted rotors for my 2009 RWD journey sedan. My mechanic says the front rotors don't fit! They are too thick and won't clear the caliper.
Called BUYBRAKES.COM and confirmed right part number:
Fronts : 127 42095 R (front right)
Fronts : 127 42095 L (front left)
Also posi quiet Pads don't fit either (on front) part #10512870
Called back buybrakes and guys lef for the day. So pissed! The mechanic is a 2 hour round trip and my car is there now overnigght.
SEE My Reply below for PICTURE and More Details!
Any ideas????
Called BUYBRAKES.COM and confirmed right part number:
Fronts : 127 42095 R (front right)
Fronts : 127 42095 L (front left)
Also posi quiet Pads don't fit either (on front) part #10512870
Called back buybrakes and guys lef for the day. So pissed! The mechanic is a 2 hour round trip and my car is there now overnigght.
SEE My Reply below for PICTURE and More Details!
Any ideas????
Last edited by 2009G37Bandit; 09-22-2012 at 12:45 AM.
#7
No sports package. Stoptech confirmed that was the right part number. Maybe thy packed them wrong???
Here is my Car's VIN (Just to confirm its a RWD/Journey Model. Had a Car Fax on it):
Link to all photos of car when I bought it:
http://www.passportmotors.com/web/ve...hotos/1067176/
Copy of my Order from BuyBrakes.Com:
Your order has shipped and your tracking number is below! If you have any questions about your order please feel free to Contact Us or call 888-257-7149.
Item Sku Qty
127.42095L - StopTech SportStop Drilled and Slotted Brake Rotors STT-127.42095L 1
127.42093L - StopTech SportStop Drilled and Slotted Brake Rotors STT-127.42093L 1
127.42095R - StopTech SportStop Drilled and Slotted Brake Rotors STT-127.42095R 1
127.42093R - StopTech SportStop Drilled and Slotted Brake Rotors STT-127.42093R 1
105.12870 - Posi-Quiet Ceramic Brake Pads PSI-105.12870 1
105.09050 - Posi-Quiet Ceramic Brake Pads PSI-105.09050 1
Shipped By Tracking Number
UPS 1Z7A5V060359526379
Any Ideas??
Here is a Picture from My Mechanic of the Rotor & Caliper not fitting:
Here is Stop Tech Website with my Car (Year, Model, etc, and it shows the correct numbers, so maybe it was a packing error??
http://www.buybrakes.com/p-640-stopt... V6&submodel3=
Here is my Car's VIN (Just to confirm its a RWD/Journey Model. Had a Car Fax on it):
Link to all photos of car when I bought it:
http://www.passportmotors.com/web/ve...hotos/1067176/
Copy of my Order from BuyBrakes.Com:
Your order has shipped and your tracking number is below! If you have any questions about your order please feel free to Contact Us or call 888-257-7149.
Item Sku Qty
127.42095L - StopTech SportStop Drilled and Slotted Brake Rotors STT-127.42095L 1
127.42093L - StopTech SportStop Drilled and Slotted Brake Rotors STT-127.42093L 1
127.42095R - StopTech SportStop Drilled and Slotted Brake Rotors STT-127.42095R 1
127.42093R - StopTech SportStop Drilled and Slotted Brake Rotors STT-127.42093R 1
105.12870 - Posi-Quiet Ceramic Brake Pads PSI-105.12870 1
105.09050 - Posi-Quiet Ceramic Brake Pads PSI-105.09050 1
Shipped By Tracking Number
UPS 1Z7A5V060359526379
Any Ideas??
Here is a Picture from My Mechanic of the Rotor & Caliper not fitting:
Here is Stop Tech Website with my Car (Year, Model, etc, and it shows the correct numbers, so maybe it was a packing error??
http://www.buybrakes.com/p-640-stopt... V6&submodel3=
Last edited by 2009G37Bandit; 09-21-2012 at 10:01 PM.
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Since you have a journey you only have 13" rotors. Sport package gets larger 14" rotor. The rotors you bought are for Sport models only. Not journey. Its an issue with the company you bought them from for not having their drop down menu weed out the difference between sport and non sport brakes.
#9
Envied. Thanks so much! However, I called and they cross referenced and said it was the right part #, BUT they are possibly wrong???
if the ones I have are NOT RIGHT. Do you know what the CORRECT Model Number is????
Will my rears also NOT FIT????
All my guy has to do is Measure my STOCK Rotor's Length & Thickness VS. what I was sent and I will quickly see what the variation is and WHY they didn't Fit. it is pretty easy to see that the rotor is TOO THICK to clear the Caliper. I am not 100% sure its their fault, but if it is, it's not the shipping back n forth I mind, its the WASTE of TIME and MONEY driving all over the place to get this done and NOW, I am going to have to spend a bunch of time shipping stuff back, waiting for the right rotors, going back out there 2 hour round trup and the poor guy having to waste his time messing with it, and if hes wasting his time, I am pahying him so I am wasting My $$$$$$.
you woul dactually SEE, was the rotors! Not now you won't. How the heck can they NOT have the right Part Number?? That seems so easy to do if you sell so many of these. It makes me think something else happened????
Again, just dissapointed at all the waste of time this has and WILL CAUSE! This has happened before to my wife's car on a window motor. That was also a major PITA for me AND the shop!
if the ones I have are NOT RIGHT. Do you know what the CORRECT Model Number is????
Will my rears also NOT FIT????
All my guy has to do is Measure my STOCK Rotor's Length & Thickness VS. what I was sent and I will quickly see what the variation is and WHY they didn't Fit. it is pretty easy to see that the rotor is TOO THICK to clear the Caliper. I am not 100% sure its their fault, but if it is, it's not the shipping back n forth I mind, its the WASTE of TIME and MONEY driving all over the place to get this done and NOW, I am going to have to spend a bunch of time shipping stuff back, waiting for the right rotors, going back out there 2 hour round trup and the poor guy having to waste his time messing with it, and if hes wasting his time, I am pahying him so I am wasting My $$$$$$.
you woul dactually SEE, was the rotors! Not now you won't. How the heck can they NOT have the right Part Number?? That seems so easy to do if you sell so many of these. It makes me think something else happened????
Again, just dissapointed at all the waste of time this has and WILL CAUSE! This has happened before to my wife's car on a window motor. That was also a major PITA for me AND the shop!
Last edited by 2009G37Bandit; 09-21-2012 at 11:04 PM.
#10
I spent hours trying to figure this out and have come to the conclusion, these guys messed up! I am very frustrated and angry because of ALL THE TIME I am my mechanic wasted trying to install these, AND all the time I wasted (and will waste) rectifying this issue!
We will see how BuyBrakes.Com handles it, IF, it is indeed their fault.
Here is the e-mail I sent:
Joe,
I hope all is well. Man this has been bugging me and just trying to figure this out. This is Gary Talac and we spoke Friday the 21st around 5pm. I called back and you just left as I said and sorry for all the e-mails, BUT, I just figured this out and want you to look at this to see if I am crazy or not.
Please call me Monday morning 972-814-4689 cell so we can get this figured out. I am fairly confident it is a system and cross reference error on your side. I am not blaming anyone (and if I am wrong, then I take full responsibility), but see below and let me know if you come to the same conclusion.
Tay, I hope you didn’t put on the rears on, because I think they are wrong too, but might be close enough to go on. I am very sorry for all the time you wasted trying to install these and we will figure something out on this.
If you Build your Car and use a 2009 Infiniti G37 Journey Model on BuyBrakes.Com Website shows the following Part Numbers Below:
These are the exact SAME Part Numbers (and Rotors) I was sent. Also, these were the same part numbers you looked up when I called you and asked you to confirm the Correct Part Numbers for my 2009 JOURNEY Sedan (Non-Sport)
The IRONIC thing is, I Searched the PART NUMBERS for ALL 2009 G37 Models (Base, Journey, and Sport). Your website gives the exact same Rotor Part Numbers for all 3 Trim Levels! Your internet parts cross reference system can’t be right if it gives the same exact rotor part number for all 3 trim levels. The G37 Sport Trim has 1 INCH Larger and Thicker Rotors. I assume that is what was sent to me.
It might be wrong just for 2009???
I. Sport Model Used as “Your Vehicle”, results below:
II. Base Model Used as “Your Vehicle”, results below:
III. Journey Model Used as “Your Vehicle”, results below:
If you go to 2010 and do the same thing, you get the exact same part numbers for all 3 TRIM Levels. The only Trim Level (for 2010) that shows a different Part Number, is for the X-Model which is listed below. Mine is NOT an X, but I think this is the sizes I need for front and rear????
The correct Part numbers I THINK I need (Just a guess) is:
127.4280 L for the FRONT (12.60 in. Dia. & 1.94 in. Height)
127.4288 for the REAR. This is what your website shows is correct part number for a 2010 X Model.( 12.11 in. Dia. & 2.45 in. Height)
I am guessing this because when I do a search from another internet vendor for a 2009 G37 Sedan Journey (What I have) it has the same dimensions as you are showing for the 2010 X model
Horsepower Freaks shows this for a 2009 G37 Journey front rotor (As it is SUPPOSED TO BE!!!)
Engine:
3.7L V6 GAS
Engine Desig:
VQ37VHR
Specifics:
Drilled And Slotted
Front Right
12.60 in. Dia.
1.94 in. Height
We will see how BuyBrakes.Com handles it, IF, it is indeed their fault.
Here is the e-mail I sent:
Joe,
I hope all is well. Man this has been bugging me and just trying to figure this out. This is Gary Talac and we spoke Friday the 21st around 5pm. I called back and you just left as I said and sorry for all the e-mails, BUT, I just figured this out and want you to look at this to see if I am crazy or not.
Please call me Monday morning 972-814-4689 cell so we can get this figured out. I am fairly confident it is a system and cross reference error on your side. I am not blaming anyone (and if I am wrong, then I take full responsibility), but see below and let me know if you come to the same conclusion.
Tay, I hope you didn’t put on the rears on, because I think they are wrong too, but might be close enough to go on. I am very sorry for all the time you wasted trying to install these and we will figure something out on this.
If you Build your Car and use a 2009 Infiniti G37 Journey Model on BuyBrakes.Com Website shows the following Part Numbers Below:
These are the exact SAME Part Numbers (and Rotors) I was sent. Also, these were the same part numbers you looked up when I called you and asked you to confirm the Correct Part Numbers for my 2009 JOURNEY Sedan (Non-Sport)
The IRONIC thing is, I Searched the PART NUMBERS for ALL 2009 G37 Models (Base, Journey, and Sport). Your website gives the exact same Rotor Part Numbers for all 3 Trim Levels! Your internet parts cross reference system can’t be right if it gives the same exact rotor part number for all 3 trim levels. The G37 Sport Trim has 1 INCH Larger and Thicker Rotors. I assume that is what was sent to me.
It might be wrong just for 2009???
I. Sport Model Used as “Your Vehicle”, results below:
II. Base Model Used as “Your Vehicle”, results below:
III. Journey Model Used as “Your Vehicle”, results below:
If you go to 2010 and do the same thing, you get the exact same part numbers for all 3 TRIM Levels. The only Trim Level (for 2010) that shows a different Part Number, is for the X-Model which is listed below. Mine is NOT an X, but I think this is the sizes I need for front and rear????
The correct Part numbers I THINK I need (Just a guess) is:
127.4280 L for the FRONT (12.60 in. Dia. & 1.94 in. Height)
127.4288 for the REAR. This is what your website shows is correct part number for a 2010 X Model.( 12.11 in. Dia. & 2.45 in. Height)
I am guessing this because when I do a search from another internet vendor for a 2009 G37 Sedan Journey (What I have) it has the same dimensions as you are showing for the 2010 X model
Horsepower Freaks shows this for a 2009 G37 Journey front rotor (As it is SUPPOSED TO BE!!!)
Engine:
3.7L V6 GAS
Engine Desig:
VQ37VHR
Specifics:
Drilled And Slotted
Front Right
12.60 in. Dia.
1.94 in. Height
#11
Thats it, they screwed up and on the phone they still kept saying you have the right part number,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Man!
My 2 month wait to install all this stuff is ruined by some friggin brake rotors that I double checked were the right ones!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My 2 month wait to install all this stuff is ruined by some friggin brake rotors that I double checked were the right ones!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Last edited by 2009G37Bandit; 09-22-2012 at 12:46 AM.
#12
This is the correct Part Numbers I THINK I need. Their website says these are for a 2010 G37 X SEDAN
http://www.buybrakes.com/p-640-stopt... V6&submodel3=
BUT, I am confident these are actually for my 2009 G37 JOURNEY SEDAN! (Of course I do not have an "X" Model).
I better get compensated accordigly. I don't want a handout, but I want to be compensated for all the BS I am and will be going through.
It's like they send you the wrong "Screws and bolts" for a Plane, BUT it took 10 guys 10 hours to take off the wing, and now the $5 bolts you have don't fit. That's why I am so pissed.
He took off all the tires, rotors, pads, for ALL 4 tires! Then the parts don't fit!!!!!!!
http://www.buybrakes.com/p-640-stopt... V6&submodel3=
BUT, I am confident these are actually for my 2009 G37 JOURNEY SEDAN! (Of course I do not have an "X" Model).
I better get compensated accordigly. I don't want a handout, but I want to be compensated for all the BS I am and will be going through.
It's like they send you the wrong "Screws and bolts" for a Plane, BUT it took 10 guys 10 hours to take off the wing, and now the $5 bolts you have don't fit. That's why I am so pissed.
He took off all the tires, rotors, pads, for ALL 4 tires! Then the parts don't fit!!!!!!!
#13
Just say no!!!!!
iTrader: (14)
This company is quite the clusterf?ck. They really need to put out better parts catalogs which at least list the physical dimensions of the parts. After much searching I was able to find the following.
Zeckhausen Racing
Looks like all of these are bbk as your stock is 12.6"f/12.1"r (320mm/307mm), none of which is at the site above.
Not sure where you got these part numbers from. I don't see them listed anywhere. Even google can't find 'em.
If I had to guess, it looks like stoptech/centricparts has applications for bbk only, not regular. I may be talking out of my @ss on this, but that's what it looks like. Best bet would be to call stoptech/centric directly and ask them wtf is going on.
The vendors/resellers go by the application guide the manufacturers put out. Mistakes happen. On a previous car, tirerack sold me a set of wheels they were absolutely sure would fit. Turned out, because the car had the optional (from the mfg) oversized rotors, there were minimal wheel inner diameter requirements, ultimately requiring going up to the next wheel diameter size (17" instead of 16").
When I called tirerack to request a return pickup, they wanted me to take pics and measure stuff. Demanded a supervisor and told her, why would I want to spend more time/money if the wheels fit (snow tires/wheels). She immediately approved the return and even gave me a discount on the correct size wheels/tires.
It's a crappy situation to find oneself in when you provide parts to a tech which turn out not fitting.
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Edit: Ok, looks like those #'s above are legit stoptech numbers. Apparently not having the L right next to the number caused it not to be found.
http://store.zeckhausen.com/catalog/...h=17_2409_2413
^^ Has those numbers listed with respective proper diameter sizes.
Given the snafu, I'd still contact stoptech and verify. Good luck!
Zeckhausen Racing
Looks like all of these are bbk as your stock is 12.6"f/12.1"r (320mm/307mm), none of which is at the site above.
The correct Part numbers I THINK I need (Just a guess) is:
127.4280 L for the FRONT (12.60 in. Dia. & 1.94 in. Height)
127.4288 for the REAR. This is what your website shows is correct part number for a 2010 X Model.( 12.11 in. Dia. & 2.45 in. Height)
127.4280 L for the FRONT (12.60 in. Dia. & 1.94 in. Height)
127.4288 for the REAR. This is what your website shows is correct part number for a 2010 X Model.( 12.11 in. Dia. & 2.45 in. Height)
If I had to guess, it looks like stoptech/centricparts has applications for bbk only, not regular. I may be talking out of my @ss on this, but that's what it looks like. Best bet would be to call stoptech/centric directly and ask them wtf is going on.
The vendors/resellers go by the application guide the manufacturers put out. Mistakes happen. On a previous car, tirerack sold me a set of wheels they were absolutely sure would fit. Turned out, because the car had the optional (from the mfg) oversized rotors, there were minimal wheel inner diameter requirements, ultimately requiring going up to the next wheel diameter size (17" instead of 16").
When I called tirerack to request a return pickup, they wanted me to take pics and measure stuff. Demanded a supervisor and told her, why would I want to spend more time/money if the wheels fit (snow tires/wheels). She immediately approved the return and even gave me a discount on the correct size wheels/tires.
It's a crappy situation to find oneself in when you provide parts to a tech which turn out not fitting.
---------------
Edit: Ok, looks like those #'s above are legit stoptech numbers. Apparently not having the L right next to the number caused it not to be found.
http://store.zeckhausen.com/catalog/...h=17_2409_2413
^^ Has those numbers listed with respective proper diameter sizes.
Given the snafu, I'd still contact stoptech and verify. Good luck!
Last edited by JSolo; 09-22-2012 at 02:29 AM.
#14
I ot thos part Numbers from BUY Brakes.com website buy using a 2012 G37 "X" Sedan.
When you use a 2010 X, it shows the diameters for the 2009 G37 RWD Journey Sedan Rotors, IF the 2009 G37's front rotor dimensions are as follows: 12..60 Diameter/1.94 Height.
Man their site is a cluster! Plus I talked to 3 different people to confirm this was right, andf 2 people after it was wrong and they still said that is the right part number.
I am still not 100% what happened, but again, a SIMPLE QUESTION (and I am NOT a Brake Specialist either) would be, measure your stock rotors and measure the ones WE SAID are right. Then you would easily know WHY they didn't fit!
That never happened either. Again, its not the $$ for the rotors, its the time, money, all the headache aftetr months of planning to do these mods and I get trumped by some rotors that I triple checked were right. Hell, I KNEW they were wrong and they guy is saying, "well that IS the correct Part Numbher, maybe they put the rotors in the wrong Box??? Really????????????????? LOL
I didn't realize this was sillyu until I realized a simple question to my mechanic woul dhave been, measure the darn things!!!!!!!!! Easy!
AND, your RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!! They don't have any measurments for their rotors on their site, they do for some, but not for all. AND as I also said, For MY YEAR 2009, if you put Base, Sport, or Journey it gives you the exact same prt number for ALL 3 TRIM LEVELS!
Go do a search for a 2009 (with all 3 trims) it gives you the 95's for front and 93's for year (That is the last 2 numbers in their part number).
Bandit..............
When you use a 2010 X, it shows the diameters for the 2009 G37 RWD Journey Sedan Rotors, IF the 2009 G37's front rotor dimensions are as follows: 12..60 Diameter/1.94 Height.
Man their site is a cluster! Plus I talked to 3 different people to confirm this was right, andf 2 people after it was wrong and they still said that is the right part number.
I am still not 100% what happened, but again, a SIMPLE QUESTION (and I am NOT a Brake Specialist either) would be, measure your stock rotors and measure the ones WE SAID are right. Then you would easily know WHY they didn't fit!
That never happened either. Again, its not the $$ for the rotors, its the time, money, all the headache aftetr months of planning to do these mods and I get trumped by some rotors that I triple checked were right. Hell, I KNEW they were wrong and they guy is saying, "well that IS the correct Part Numbher, maybe they put the rotors in the wrong Box??? Really????????????????? LOL
I didn't realize this was sillyu until I realized a simple question to my mechanic woul dhave been, measure the darn things!!!!!!!!! Easy!
AND, your RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!! They don't have any measurments for their rotors on their site, they do for some, but not for all. AND as I also said, For MY YEAR 2009, if you put Base, Sport, or Journey it gives you the exact same prt number for ALL 3 TRIM LEVELS!
Go do a search for a 2009 (with all 3 trims) it gives you the 95's for front and 93's for year (That is the last 2 numbers in their part number).
Bandit..............
#15
P.S. HERE are thos part Numbers you couldn't find:
Its the link to BuyBrakes.Com's website using a 2010 G37 X (Remeber I have a 2009 Journey RWD Sedan).
http://www.buybrakes.com/p-640-stopt... V6&submodel3=
Its the link to BuyBrakes.Com's website using a 2010 G37 X (Remeber I have a 2009 Journey RWD Sedan).
http://www.buybrakes.com/p-640-stopt... V6&submodel3=