At that time again when I have to switch the brake pads. I recently kept it OEM for the rears, but I'm not forking out another $300 (stealership...).

Any recommendations for the front pads? It is a good idea to have OEM on the rear and aftermarket on the fronts? Does it even matter since the fronts are used most? Need your thoughts!

 

Also, I saw the posting under the brakes sub-forum and I saw there are slotted rotors and ceramic brake pads for cheap on eBay, but I don't have an X. This is for a Journey.

Please give me your thoughts and any experiences and recommendations. Thanks.

 

I just changed from oem to hawk HPS all around. No noise and awesome stopping power. No dust yet. A huge step up from oem

 

just switched to Posi-quiet ceramics and I am pretty happy. autoanything.com

 

oh believe me the hps dust like a freaking train. lol just wait

 

I saw some pretty bad reviews about the hps...not great in the cold. Also, brake dust complaints.

Anything thoughts on OEM rear and aftermarket on the fronts?

 

I had Hawk HPS pads and they had little bite if they are not up to operating temperatures. When they were warmed up, they are great pads. Would I buy them again? Hell NO!

I have Project Mu NS pads and like them but I'm switching over to the Endless SSY pads since they have a better coefficient of friction when cold to see how they perform.

I've also heard good things about Stoptech pads but have no experience with them.

 

^ Ditto on HPS, not worth it for sane daily driving, especially if you need to drive out of a neighborhood while the pads are still cold.

Btw, OP, ideally you should have the same compounds all around, otherwise it changes the bias.

 

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Originally Posted by tonke73

I have Project Mu NS pads and like them but I'm switching over to the Endless SSY pads since they have a better coefficient of friction when cold to see how they perform.

Can I ask where you were able to purchase either of these pads from? My searches aren't warranting any results.

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Originally Posted by tonke73

I've also heard good things about Stoptech pads but have no experience with them.

I don't like these pads at all. I briefly reviewed them by saying that "I'm not a fan of these. They came with the Stoptech BBK for my TSX and are advertised as a pad with "far better characteristics in all categories compared to the Axxis Ultimate's". The only thing they're better at is dust production. Crazy levels of film pad transfer that's not as easily removed as that of the Hawk HPS, stupidly long warm-up periods, and very short life; I got 7,500 miles out of them on my TSX with the 328x28 Stoptech ST-40 BBK." From: https://www.myg37.com/forums/g37-sedan/237445-brake-pad-suggestions-for-x-sedans.html

 

While I, and Stoptech's tech department, definitely agree that a higher front brake pad coefficient of friction will shift bias more towards the front of the vehicle, when comparing the Hawk HPS to OEM, I don't think the bias change will be noticeable but I also don't have the numbers for the OE pads. When going from OE to pads such as the Hawk HP+, Hawk Blue, Porterfield R4, the bias change will be far more noticeable but then again, I don't think any of us are insane enough to run race pads on cars that rarely see the track.

Stoptech source: White Paper - Brake Bias and Performance- Why Brake Balance Matters

 

$300 installed right? No way OEM non r-spec pads are that much.

Personally I like OEM pads, the car isn't tracked, it sees spirited driving and isn't too heavy on the dust with minimal fade. That's all I need.

 

those are sport rears for $66+ shipping.
fronts for $68+ shipping these are sport brakes (BBK) if you have a journey w/sport they will fit.

 

I see what you mean. Yeah, this is just for daily driving, no track. I'm looking for super quiet brakes, minimal brake dust, and (at least) equal stopping power of OEM. I drive hard once in a while in these empty streets of Alabama.

No one has mentioned the hawk performance ceramics; what about those? How bad (if any) would the bias be?

Yeah, that's what the dealership quoted me here for the front. I think there's a 10% coupon or some crap. I tried just quoting the oem brake pads, which they said was $120.

 

Any suggestion on this? I was going to replace my OEM that are getting worn down with Hawk HPS, however it seems that unless if i get them warmed up they are not going to be better than OEM. I don't take the car to track just street driving (some times aggressive) I Have a G37xS and was going to replace stock setup with Stoptech drilled/slotted rotors and Hawk HPS pads. but after reading a lot it seems keeping it stock might be better?

 

Stock pads will almost always work better when cold as that's what they're formulated to do. They will not, however, work as well as aftermarket pads past a certain temperature.

I would continue using the stock pads if i didn't track the G (FWIW, i did use it on a track which wasn't that hard on brakes -- it performed okay with no issues.)

If i had to nit on one thing about the stock pads is that they tend to transfer uneven pad material onto the rotors which can result in some type of vibration. This is a very common occurrence on a lot of Nissan vehicles and is almost always misdiagnosed as a warping rotor.