Phil

So I'm in the midst of deciding on my new front brake setup since my nearly 3-year-old PowerSlot Cryo / Hawk HPS combo is warped to sh*t. I already know that I'm going to run the same Powerslot Cryo rotors again since the ones I'm currently running lasted me far longer than any other OE-sized rotor I've ever used so my decision now really comes down to pad choice.


Choice 1: Hawk HPS ($79) - the same pad I'm currently running. Their ferro-carbon compound bites reasonably well under normal street conditions and grip far better when minimally heated up. Dust really isn't an issue in comparison to other performance pads I've run in the past (Axxis Ultimate & Stoptech Street Performance) but the HPS does tend to leave uneven film pad transfer on rotors when they're significantly overheated (10+ panic stops or the lightest type of track duty). Pad life with these is incredibly good, though; I still have well over 50% material left after their 3 years of use. I've run these pads on 4 different cars and yes, I do like them, but I really want to know if anyone's found a better pad.


Choice 2: Porterfield R4-S ($117) - I ran them on my '01 Eclipse with a Baer Track Kit and they feature virtually the same characteristics as the Hawk HPS with the exception of a bit more dust, a longer warm-up period, minimally more grip at higher temperatures but they're much less prone to leaving uneven pad film deposits on the rotors. A potentially serious flaw with these pads, although I never experienced it, is the tendency for the outer pad shape to be machined improperly and for the pads to rattle in the caliper anchor bracket. About half of the 2G and 3G Eclipse owners on those forums reported this defect. Is this an issue with the X's R4-S's?


Choice 3: Stoptech Street Performance ($70) - I'm not a fan of these. They came with the Stoptech BBK for my TSX and are advertised as a pad with "far better characteristics in all categories compared to the Axxis Ultimate's". The only thing they're better at is dust production. Crazy levels of film pad transfer that's not as easily removed as that of the Hawk HPS, stupidly long warm-up periods, and very short life; I got 7,500 miles out of them on my TSX with the 328x28 Stoptech ST-40 BBK.


I have no experience with, and little-to-no knowledge of the following pad's characteristics: Hawk Performance Ceramic ($80), Akebono ProACT Ceramic Pads ($71), Centric Posi Quiet Ceramic Pads ($53), Ferodo DS2500 ($153), SP Street Plus ($76), and Powerstop Z-16 Ceramic ($56).


Although they're expensive, I'm very willing to experiment with the Ferodo DS2500's since I've only ever heard great things about Ferodo. Does anyone know if these are overly aggressive on rotors? With the HPS's I'm running now, I still have more than enough rotor thickness to have them machined so I'd like to know if the DS2500's will kill my new rotors before I have a chance to re-surface them should I not like the pads.


Thanks in advance for any suggestions, opinions, etc. etc..


Phil

hadokenuh

I vote for Akebono ProACT from personal experience.

bat6wc

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just installed the posi-quiet ceramics yesterday. so far, happy.

Phil

Thanks for the vote. How do you feel they perform when overheated?

Adam West

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I just ordered a full set of Hawk Performance Ceramic pads with new rotors, will post feedback after I install them.

dagenius01

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Any suggestion on this? I was going to replace my OEM that are getting worn down with Hawk HPS, however it seems that unless if i get them warmed up they are not going to be better than OEM. I don't take the car to track just street driving (some times aggressive) I Have a G37xS and was going to replace stock setup with Stoptech drilled/slotted rotors and Hawk HPS pads. but after reading a lot it seems keeping it stock might be better?

original sin

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stoptech performance street pads with blank napa rotors.

bat6wc

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posi-quiet ceramics with centric blanks

Hotrodder00

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I won't do Hawk again, I just don't see any benefit over OEM!

Adam West

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So far the Hawk ceramics seem to have less initial bite than the OEM pads, but I don't have many miles on the yet. I did follow Hawks bed in instructions. During some repeated heavy braking it seemed these pads grabbed harder, but really took putting some heat into them. Time will tell if the Hawk Ceramics are the way to go or not.

Phil

Thanks for the update!

I think I'm going to experiment with the Ferodo DS2500's.