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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 03:07 PM
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Smile Eibach pro kit question for the handling guru's

Been doing some research on the Eibach Pro Kit and it looks like the drop for our cars on that kit is roughly 1.4" in the front and 0.8 in the rear.

Since there is more of a drop on the front and Although that's good for eliminating the gap in the front wheels, wouldn't that mean that you would be shifting the weight of the car forward hence causing some handling changes in the cars behavior for the worse?

Food for thought.. what do you all think?
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 03:12 PM
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its a pretty even drop on g37s cause your rear already sits lower then the front.
Plus if u put more stress on your rear shocks, they'll get bouncy a lot sooner. fronts are struts so they take the beating a lot better.
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Originally Posted by iiiiiekoiiiii
its a pretty even drop on g37s cause your rear already sits lower then the front.
Plus if u put more stress on your rear shocks, they'll get bouncy a lot sooner. fronts are struts so they take the beating a lot better.
Thanks for your input.. Anyone else?
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by DanMardik
Since there is more of a drop on the front and Although that's good for eliminating the gap in the front wheels, wouldn't that mean that you would be shifting the weight of the car forward hence causing some handling changes in the cars behavior for the worse?
I know what you are trying to get at and in theory you are heading in the right direction on your point. Fact of the matter is, it is probably so negligible that there is no way to measure it. I guess you could always test weigh a car on all four corners before and after installing the kit. I bet there would be no shifting of the weight. The car is too low to begin with for that to happen.
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 05:23 PM
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1/2" doesnt seem like enough to really matter. still has the same amount of weight over each wheel.
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Old Feb 9, 2009 | 08:37 PM
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Sure, but even 1% weight shift forward would make for a more twitchy car... no?
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Let's say it does drop 1.4"/0.8". That is a 0.6" difference in the front. Now let's try to figure out the angle on that and how much weight is shifted... who am I kidding? I can't figure that out right now. How much is 1% of the car weight? 35-40 pounds? I can tell you right now that's not going to happen.

But you are correct in your theory.
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Let's say it does drop 1.4"/0.8". That is a 0.6" difference in the front. Now let's try to figure out the angle on that and how much weight is shifted... who am I kidding? I can't figure that out right now. How much is 1% of the car weight? 35-40 pounds? I can tell you right now that's not going to happen.

But you are correct in your theory.
I think in order to get a base, we need to find out how the car sits from the factory, or I can just ask all of you who really push their cars with the Eibach Pro kits how you like the feel of the car with this set up...
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The handling and behavior in corners have improved after I got my Eibachs. You can use me as actual case study data as opposed to theoretical calculations
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Originally Posted by ucla bruin
The handling and behavior in corners have improved after I got my Eibachs. You can use me as actually case study data as opposed to theoretical calculations
Thanks for the input. Do you ever drive at the limits of your cars handling potential, or do you just take a few hard corners here and there?
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Handling is significantly improved with the Eibachs, however that may be because I have sways too haha.
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Originally Posted by DanMardik
Thanks for the input. Do you ever drive at the limits of your cars handling potential, or do you just take a few hard corners here and there?
Haven't had a chance to push it near the brink since I got the Eibachs, but will look to soon before I put on new wheels in 2 weeks or so.

I think if you're looking to track or push to the full potential often, I'd suggest coils instead of springs.
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Originally Posted by sTiLLBaLLiN37
Handling is significantly improved with the Eibachs, however that may be because I have sways too haha.
Does your car feel more neutral with this set up? or does it under/over steer?

Originally Posted by ucla bruin
Haven't had a chance to push it near the brink since I got the Eibachs, but will look to soon before I put on new wheels in 2 weeks or so.
Very kool, let me know what you come up with in terms of the overall balance of the car handling.
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How about coils, since it seems you focus a lot of handling down to the T.
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