View Poll Results: which should i put for my fogs
yellow
29
37.66%
same as headlights
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HID fogs
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^^^What he said x eleventy billion^^^
Guys running the 6000K+ "fog lights" aren't fog lights at all. They're not really even very useful as driving lights. They're "for show" lights. They produce hardly any usable light in darkness, rain or fog at all. If you want to see the road better in all conditions, especially rain or fog, get some 3000K or 2500K yellow bulbs.
Guys running the 6000K+ "fog lights" aren't fog lights at all. They're not really even very useful as driving lights. They're "for show" lights. They produce hardly any usable light in darkness, rain or fog at all. If you want to see the road better in all conditions, especially rain or fog, get some 3000K or 2500K yellow bulbs.
If I'm right, 3,000k fog lights are just as usable as a 8,000k when not in adverse weather. The yellow color is ONLY helpful in rain/snow, etc.
I run 3,000k in my foglights now (I drive a G35 coupe) and to me the color is such a rich yellow that it's actually harder to see on a regular night as opposed to pure white. Of course ANY light will help. 1 pair of lights < 2 pair of lights, period. Going as so far as to say they're only "show lights" is a little far. Show lights would be to put LEDs in your foglight housing. Now THAT is useless.
What it matters is the color itself. White will always do better in dry weather, but where the 3,000k fogs come into play is when there is rain where it penetrates the water and actually colors the road itself rather than trying to light it up.
My conclusion, if you don't run into heavy rain, fog, snow, etc. just get the matching as it will still give you more light output than running just your lowbeams (like I said, it is essentially a 2nd pair of lows since the fogs are built into the headlight itself), but if you need the color to show the road, then go for the 3,000k. There is absolutely no point in 3,000k if the area sees no adverse weather and it will still be functional.
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I would like to disagree with you here. Of course they won't do for you much in adverse weather, but during a normal/dry night, they second as a 2nd pair of headlights and will still help.
If I'm right, 3,000k fog lights are just as usable as a 8,000k when not in adverse weather. The yellow color is ONLY helpful in rain/snow, etc.
I run 3,000k in my foglights now (I drive a G35 coupe) and to me the color is such a rich yellow that it's actually harder to see on a regular night as opposed to pure white. Of course ANY light will help. 1 pair of lights < 2 pair of lights, period. Going as so far as to say they're only "show lights" is a little far. Show lights would be to put LEDs in your foglight housing. Now THAT is useless.
What it matters is the color itself. White will always do better in dry weather, but where the 3,000k fogs come into play is when there is rain where it penetrates the water and actually colors the road itself rather than trying to light it up.
My conclusion, if you don't run into heavy rain, fog, snow, etc. just get the matching as it will still give you more light output than running just your lowbeams (like I said, it is essentially a 2nd pair of lows since the fogs are built into the headlight itself), but if you need the color to show the road, then go for the 3,000k. There is absolutely no point in 3,000k if the area sees no adverse weather and it will still be functional.
If I'm right, 3,000k fog lights are just as usable as a 8,000k when not in adverse weather. The yellow color is ONLY helpful in rain/snow, etc.
I run 3,000k in my foglights now (I drive a G35 coupe) and to me the color is such a rich yellow that it's actually harder to see on a regular night as opposed to pure white. Of course ANY light will help. 1 pair of lights < 2 pair of lights, period. Going as so far as to say they're only "show lights" is a little far. Show lights would be to put LEDs in your foglight housing. Now THAT is useless.
What it matters is the color itself. White will always do better in dry weather, but where the 3,000k fogs come into play is when there is rain where it penetrates the water and actually colors the road itself rather than trying to light it up.
My conclusion, if you don't run into heavy rain, fog, snow, etc. just get the matching as it will still give you more light output than running just your lowbeams (like I said, it is essentially a 2nd pair of lows since the fogs are built into the headlight itself), but if you need the color to show the road, then go for the 3,000k. There is absolutely no point in 3,000k if the area sees no adverse weather and it will still be functional.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Automot...ront_fog_lamps
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To me, the "fog lights" built IN the headlight housing isn't really true fog lights, IMO. So whatever application fits best, I find it acceptable if the person wants to make it match.
they may be placed next to the headlights, but they are still aimed as fogs. pretty useless as a 2nd pair of headlights, IMO. the optics are not designed for HIDs either, so those running around with HID fogs are blinding the crap out of other drivers.
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I guess maybe the 2nd headlights thing is just me
I'm not sure about the 37, but my 35 has been fine with HID fogs. I've had my friends and other people drive in front of me as well as myself being parked infront of my car and the glare is not blinding. The headlights are something noticeable but not blinding.
Edit: You know what...didn't realize the OP had the new facelift with the seperated foglights. Go 3,000k!
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I'm going to bump this up with some VERY interesting information I've recently come across.
Yellow vs. Clear/White Lights (long post) - ADVrider
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ght_color.html
http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forum...ml#post1149327
Yellow vs. Clear/White Lights (long post) - ADVrider
http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...ght_color.html
http://www.fjcruiserforums.com/forum...ml#post1149327
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Same as headlight looks tacky when it's the fog in headlight design. I tried it and didn't like it much. Never really cared for yellow fogs, but took a chance on them and they look soooooo much better next to the 5000k low beam than the 5000k fogs did. But if you have fogs in the bumper, either or looks good.
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I'm going to bump this up with some VERY interesting information I've recently come across.
Yellow vs. Clear/White Lights (long post) - ADVrider
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply
fog lights yellow vs. white - Toyota FJ Cruiser Forum
Yellow vs. Clear/White Lights (long post) - ADVrider
Daniel Stern Lighting Consultancy and Supply
fog lights yellow vs. white - Toyota FJ Cruiser Forum
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I live in Miami. No snow and we may get some fog but nothing extreme. My fog lights dont serve as fog lights. I just use them as another set of lights in the front of the car. They help illuminate some places that the headlights miss and really lights up the road in areas where the headlights and the foglights overlap. The more light the better. Like I mentioned above, if you need functional fogs and you like the yellow then by all means, go for it.
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Had a question, maybe someone can help me out with my fog lights. Installed HID fog lights on my '10 sedan and they stopped working after sometime. Thought it was the ballast, so i went ahead and put stock H8 fog lights back on and they didn't work. Anyone know where the fuse for the fog lights are on the sedan? Ive tried looking at the 2 fuse boxes on the car but nothing states anything about the foglight fuse. Im thinking I just blew the fuse, but anyone know what maybe wrong? After putting back the stock fog bulbs they won't turn on.. not sure what the problem is..
