You should not be getting ANY noise through the OEM HU. If you are then you do not have differentially balanced inputs on the amp or the signal converted to unbalanced before the amp.

 

The measurable difference is up to you to figure out.........Do you know the manufacture of the OEM Radio? My proof is in the sound

 

In actuality it is not up to me to find out. You stated a reason as to why you tended to chose one component rather than the other and I called for you to show me objective evidence as to why you came to this conclusion. Maybe you should clarify your statements and preface by saying "it is in my opinion...." rather than making hard, UNSUBSTANTIATED facts. In my humble opinion, the fact that you evaded the question in the manner that you did, tells me that either your shop supplies one piece rather than the other or you really have no idea of what you are talking about. For the sake of your customers and choosing the lesser of evils, I hope it's the prior!

 

In all i dont have the time to prove to you or anyone else the actual measurements......If you need numbers to prove then you can spend the pointless time in getting your numbers...im not avoiding anything simply just dont have the time to give you numbers that would prove you wrong and i choose not to argue for the sake of arguing especially online... if you like you can donate your own time to get the numbers.. i will tell you the numbers would be different without even putting testers on the circuit.....


P.S. I also stated in previous posts why the OEM with DQL-8 was not the best route to choose....and like i said before my proof is in the sound.

 

Well, how about you just tell me what numbers you are referring to? Please don't tell me your going by manufacturer supplied specs right?! Just tell me what method of measurement you applied to extrapolate data that informed you that one application gave inferior results?

See, we in the world of science understand that things like perception are subjective, so thats why we use objective evidence and controlled studies, when at all feasible. Otherwise we have clowns making claims that they can hear differences between $30 wire and $500 wire or even better yet, insist on the need for capacitors for storage of energy! You know, for when that bass hits! Your claims are about as relevant as someone who uses a butt dyno to tell us that they feel the 1 HP difference that their fart can gave them.

 

In no way was I trying to undermine the abilities of the "Audioshoppe" and if thats how it came across, I apologize. But, from my personal experience in the car audio field, 99% of car audio shops are limited in their technical expertise.

There are two aspects of car audio installation 1. aesthetics 2. SQ setup. The former is what we call the "fabricators". The guys who can glass, make racks, boxes, kicks etc. The latter are the guys who incorporate audio/electrical engineering, etc. Most of the shops are good or excellent "fabricators" and an extremely select few are good at both.

I have no problems giving credit to a shop or poster that's conveying helpful, credible info, but generalizations just don't cut it. In respects to the statement that I asked for clarification on, I know what kind of analysis should or would be done, in order to extrapolate data that would lead to the stated conclusion. I only asked what were the results that lead him to make such a statement. If he did not do the proper analysis then I would take his statement with a grain of salt, since I know there is no way that he could have evaluated it with objective evidence or supported what he "heard" with objective evidence.

 

Thats good to hear! I really only pursued this questioning because 1. I use the OEM HU delivering into a ZAPCO DSP-6 and have great perceptible sound quality 2. the poster made a statement about noise and that just doesn't make sense, as we have a differentially balanced signal and have ZERO noise. If someone is getting noise through their signal wiring then they have not hooked it up properly....period. Glad to hear it all is working out for you

 

agreed ^^^.

 

[quote=dillyyo;2450506]Thats good to hear! I really only pursued this questioning because 1. I use the OEM HU delivering into a ZAPCO DSP-6 and have great perceptible sound quality.




Coming up to a IASCA competition would love for your OEM radio to compete against the Kenwood!


P.S. looking at your posts dillyo in the upgraded audio section you seem to be a real know it all.....im so glad we came to you for technical help on sound and video upgrades..since i see you like Zapco, i have a nice Audison LRX sitting in this G just waiting for you to hear the "difference".....NOV.15,2008 IASCA competition at our shop..

 

Hi all I'd like to introduce myself, My name is Ben and I am the "other" sales associate at the Audio Shoppe.

It seems like I can cut the tension in the air with a knife! Referring to the earlier posts, it seems like we at the Audio Shoppe made a common mistake that all shops seems to do when posting on a forum. Having two people post under the same name!

I was the one who made the statement about the source signal, and yes it was a generalization so please do take that statement with a grain of salt.

As to the statement above, I would like to re convey that invitation to our store with a little less hostility. We are having an IASCA Sound off on November 15, we would be more than happy to see you there.

Other than that, as long as you will have us, we will continue to post our work and hopefully inspire some new ideas. Cheers!

 

I'm glad you cleared that up because I don't know what I said that inflamatory. I just asked for clarification, but I now realize what your intent was. Unfortunately I live in NJ and don't really have the time for competing in car audio.

 

DOMO

 

The Canadian Audison Show car has this unit as well. However they decided not to replace the indash screen, and replaced the cupholders instead. I thought it was a pretty nice setup.

Personally, I love my Rockford ThreeSixty.2, setting it up via bluetooth is awesome. I have always placed very well in every IASCA competition that I've competed in my area as well and have always placed very well. I've only missed one or two.

 

Love the video!!!!






Jared