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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 10:14 AM
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got my wheels on

Put my new wheels on this weekend!

19" Niche Milan's with 245/40/19 tires. Square setup.

Now I need to drop it.

Question about lowering, if I were to go with springs do I need front control arms as well or just the rear camber arms?








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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 10:34 AM
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Why would you need control arms? Unless your bushings are blown...
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 10:37 AM
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Why would you need control arms? Unless your bushings are blown...
Because replacing the front upper control arms is how you add camber adjustability.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by steven92
Question about lowering, if I were to go with springs do I need front control arms as well or just the rear camber arms?
Depends which springs you go with, for a milder (1.5" or less) drop you can
typically get by w/ just a rear kit, but each drop is different, depending on variance of parts and the technicians doing the alignment.

Since you have all 4 the same size ( I assume since you have the same tires all around that the wheels are also the same) you have the advantage of being able to do a true 4 wheel rotation (assuming you don't have directional tires). So if you run a bit heavier camber in front (in the -1.6 to -2 range) you should get decent tire life as long as your toe is in spec.

Wheels look good on that G BTW.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 10:43 AM
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When he wrote it made me think of this

Not the uppers lol
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 10:57 AM
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I just want to drop the vehicle on swift springs. Looks like I just need a rear kit? How much does the labor cost average for installation? Plus I assume I'll need another alignment?

Yes, the wheels technically are the same but each has its own unique balance. When the wheels were shipped, each wheel specifically had a package sticker that said FRONT RIGHT, FRONT LEFT etc.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by steven92
I just want to drop the vehicle on swift springs. Looks like I just need a rear kit? How much does the labor cost average for installation? Plus I assume I'll need another alignment?

Yes, the wheels technically are the same but each has its own unique balance. When the wheels were shipped, each wheel specifically had a package sticker that said FRONT RIGHT, FRONT LEFT etc.
Interesting, are the tires directional or do the wheels have a different offset in the front/back? If the wheels have the same width/offset and the tires aren't directional you should have no problem swapping them to any place on the car.
That said, the spring install can vary by hundreds of dollars, really need to call around or even post a "shop recommendation for spring install in **** area??" in the regional folders, might even find a fellow member here that would lend a hand since it's not a real hard DIY.
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And yes, you will need a fresh alignment
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 11:31 AM
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I'm doing Swifts on my IPL this week. I went with camber kits front and rear. I wanted to be in OEM spec all around. I did not want to be on the 'edge' of being in spec. Tires aren't cheap. I'm hoping my alignment guy can get the car within factory specs regarding Toe so I don't need the bolts installed. Many others here with comparable dropped springs have been able to do just that. My advice is, if you can afford it, get camber kits front and rear and be done with it. You'll have no regrets like you would if you saw inner tire wear months down the road and then said, "I should have got the camber kits"...
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 11:32 AM
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The wheel supplier (CARID [ terrible company DO NOT recommend at all]) has them listed as the same offset but the rear wheels seem to be more concave.

All I need are the rear camber arms?
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by steven92
The wheel supplier (CARID [ terrible company DO NOT recommend at all]) has them listed as the same offset but the rear wheels seem to be more concave.

All I need are the rear camber arms?
Sounds like they may be a different width then, sorry to hear about your problems w/ them and since they're a site vendor be sure to post a review in the vendor folder.
The rear camber arm also includes (or should include) a set of new toe bolts, these require the adjustment slot to be widened (with a dremel tool) to allow the new bolts to have more range, this will get your toe in spec when you drop it.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by steven92
The wheel supplier (CARID [ terrible company DO NOT recommend at all]) has them listed as the same offset but the rear wheels seem to be more concave.

All I need are the rear camber arms?
Really? I'm thinking about getting a wheel package from them in a few weeks. I like the rear concave though so i might be good.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 01:04 PM
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Really? I'm thinking about getting a wheel package from them in a few weeks. I like the rear concave though so i might be good.
I would rate this company a solid 1 out of 10, 10 being the best. If you research this company in the BBB (Better Business Bureau) they have terrible reviews

Reasons:

1. My order was shipped out 3.5 weeks after order placement
2. The original tires I purchased were not in stock and CARID did not notify me of this until 2 weeks or so after initial order placement
3. Customer service is terrible. Direct answers are hard to find, and they tend to hang up or "drop calls" as they claim on you
4. Upon shipment, one wheel had a small ding. The wheels were not balanced correctly and had to be rebalanced by Infiniti
5. Upon shipment, 2 out of 4 hub rings shipped. I had to order an extra set from a different supplier
6. My friend who has a G37x Sedan ordered wheels 1 week before me, and they shipped 2 weeks after I had received mine. He too had terrible customer service and they lied to him. CARID kept claiming the order had shipped but UPS said otherwise.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by steven92
I would rate this company a solid 1 out of 10, 10 being the best. If you research this company in the BBB (Better Business Bureau) they have terrible reviews

Reasons:

1. My order was shipped out 3.5 weeks after order placement
2. The original tires I purchased were not in stock and CARID did not notify me of this until 2 weeks or so after initial order placement
3. Customer service is terrible. Direct answers are hard to find, and they tend to hang up or "drop calls" as they claim on you
4. Upon shipment, one wheel had a small ding. The wheels were not balanced correctly and had to be rebalanced by Infiniti
5. Upon shipment, 2 out of 4 hub rings shipped. I had to order an extra set from a different supplier
6. My friend who has a G37x Sedan ordered wheels 1 week before me, and they shipped 2 weeks after I had received mine. He too had terrible customer service and they lied to him. CARID kept claiming the order had shipped but UPS said otherwise.
Ok, thanks for the info. Might try my hand at some local rim shops then.
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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 02:53 PM
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Or you can try:

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Old Apr 26, 2016 | 03:20 PM
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Well worth getting camber kit. Stealership did my alignment two years ago and still on good tire wear. For anyone buying new tires I recommend tirerack.com and for wheels Vossen company got good warranty their wheels.
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