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Mar 27, 2015 | 05:27 PM

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properdropper

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dudeeee that G is sickkkkkkk!

Mar 30, 2015 | 08:42 AM

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chilibowl

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Originally Posted by Ryne

Front wheels at -1.6 degrees camber is miles outside of spec. If you had them installed recently, wait a bit, and you'll be even further out.

I had them installed and then waited 3 weeks before alignment.

One wheel with -1.6 camber is miles out of spec? lol ok....

I will be rotating my wheels every oil change...I think I will live homie

Mar 30, 2015 | 10:40 AM

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Ryne

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Originally Posted by chilibowl

I had them installed and then waited 3 weeks before alignment.

One wheel with -1.6 camber is miles out of spec? lol ok....

I will be rotating my wheels every oil change...I think I will live homie

It doesn't matter if you waited a year before getting an alignment because the fronts have ZERO adjustability. I'm not sure what your alignment guy told you, but you paid him to do absolutely nothing to your front camber adjustment. The rear has minimal adjustability, not enough to get an Eibach lowering back into spec.

You don't like my "opinion", so let's see what other people on the forum have said that had to learn the hard way:

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Originally Posted by daviper

Good choice - I did the same. Anyone that says the ride is the same with the Eibach springs is crazy. The stance is 100x better, but the ride is MUCH harsher. And I wasn't able to get the alignment in spec (though maybe I could've had someone better try the alignment?) without a camber kit - I ruined a set of tires because of it.

Anyways, I miss the lowered look of the eibach springs, but I'm much happier now with the smoother ride and not worrying about clearance anymore. I've gotten used to the higher look and it doesn't bother me anymore. From 40,000-60,000 miles on the eibach springs I needed to replace my shocks, swaybar endlinks, and both front wheel hub bearing assemblies. I can't 100% say this was all caused by the eibach springs, but I'm pretty sure the harshness of the ride contributed to them failing sooner.

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Originally Posted by A_Palaroan

im dropped on eibach and my fornt tires have bad camber wear and my rears are just fine. i would suggest getting front camber kits cause the rears are adjustable and the fronts are not. i am running 20" wheels but with a mild drop like that i suggest getting front camber kits. anything lower i suggest getting front and rear. hope this helps

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Originally Posted by QuickSilver08

I had to get it with mine. Wore my front tires out in 10k miles or so.

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Originally Posted by chasemyaccord

I have the Eibach Pro Kit too on stock 19's. I bought a set of Ventus V12's about 10K miles ago (I think, can't remember exact mileage). I think the rears are fine but the inside of my front left tire is worn pretty badly (according to the dealer this morning). I did get my front right replaced because of a nail so that's why they didn't say anything about that tire.

I got an alignment done at West End back in December 2009 and these were my specs:

Front before: -1.75 camber, 1/16" toe out
Front after: -1.75 camber, 3/32" toe in

Rear before: -2.4 camber
Rear after: -1.9 camber

Either it's time for me to get another alignment, or I need to get a camber kit (front? rear? both? i have no friggin clue...i'm a suspension noob). I'll look at the rears when I pick up my car later tonight, but I don't recall seeing anything unusual.

Decisions, decisions...

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Originally Posted by SL1CKZ

I have 20" dropped on eibachs, ran about 20k miles on it. The front camber is horrible, you will need camber kit. The rear is not as bad, depending on your case you should ask your mechanic.

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Originally Posted by QuickSilver08

My ventus v12's are directional.

Get the camber kit and do it right the first time. I easily had another 10k miles left in my factory tires and had I done a camber kit the first time I could have saved up some more money before buying new tires.

I'm just trying to help you see the trap that so many before you have fallen into by thinking that they could get away without the kits and save a few bucks. The reality is that even with tire rotation, your tires are going to wear abnormally. You WILL save money by buying alignment kits and having your car within factory spec, that's not even an argument - it's a fact. If you prefer to spend your money on tires than the proper supporting hardware to get your car within spec, that is your own choice, but there is no need to try and fool anyone into thinking it's a good idea.

Since you are running PSS, I feel like I am being very helpful in warning you that your $1,000 tire investment is at risk. If you get half the expected tire life, you lose $500 per set of tires - which would have paid for the whole SPC alignment kit. Even if you manage to get 75% out of the set, much more than anyone would expect without an in spec alignment, you stand to lose $250 per set of tires.

Last edited by Ryne; Mar 30, 2015 at 11:36 AM.