better then toyo t1s???? ummm..hmmmmmm....that tire is sickly retarded....best tire i ever owned...it didnt last long, but it was a animal tire...they had there own racing circuit..jsut with that tire...loved them i had 2 sets of em....

i dont remember where i seen it, but the generel didnt offer the same protection and reliability as the toyos.....i live in jersey, i ride slammed anything, with big wheels....i never had a problem, so i stick with what i see on paper is good and what i used thats good...

the kid twith the m3 had em on all them rims?? damn...those tires only been out for a couple years...he must have a lot of cash....