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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 11:58 AM
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imma look for another link my mom sent me of a palace with about 50 cars.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:29 PM
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The Gt has 605 hp ,0-60 under 4 sec.I don't know much about that ferrari other than it looks good.That guy was scared to drive also.I don't like the paddle shifter . All i know is that he was scared like a little biotch.
The point is Carrara GT is very light (3043lb)....RPM is 8.4k.......no way 750hp can take the GT....

http://www.rsportscars.com/eng/cars/carrera_gt.asp
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 02:23 PM
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606bhp minus a conservative 15% drive train loss, thats around 515whp if hes lucky. 350z only weighs about 300lb more and aftermarket cars are usually dynoed with whp already... so thats around 235 more whp... thats more than enough to make up for 300 pounds.
power to weight ratio for the porsche = 515/3043 = 0.17whp/lb
power to weight ratio for the Z = 750/3400 = 0.22whp/lb
huge advantage to the Z, if Z have good tires and can catch traction it shouldnt even be close. If Z dosnt have good tires and spins around, it should still catch up easily and destroy the porche.
*even if the Z is 750bhp, its still got at least 100more whp than the porsche

the 8.4k redline dosnt mean much, M3 has 8k rpm redline, but a Vette with the 6.0L LS2 V8 and low 6krmp redline will punish it with at the topend. S2000 has 9k rpm redline, but our topend power is also superior. redline only makes a difference if you have the simular power and torque curves, then the extra rpms should make a difference.

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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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wondering where our gas money goes???
Dude U.S hardly pays for their gas ... especially from Kuwait they get it very cheap because of the gulf war favors they did...
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 02:35 PM
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im sure we probably pays them at a discounted rate compared to other countries. thats why our gas price is so much lower than in other countries. But our demand is also hundreds of times more than other countries, so in the end they still get most of their money from us. they dont just magically drive gallardos and ferraris, the moneys gotta come from somewhere... we just happen to have more than 60% of all the automobiles in the world in the US and by them i mean the entire OPEC, not just kuwait
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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gas money we're spending is funding the terrorists....
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:47 PM
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its not
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:53 PM
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its not
oh? really....how would u know arjunz(from kuwait)
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 03:56 PM
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omg... thats great
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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Originally Posted by terryw
606bhp minus a conservative 15% drive train loss, thats around 515whp if hes lucky. 350z only weighs about 300lb more and aftermarket cars are usually dynoed with whp already... so thats around 235 more whp... thats more than enough to make up for 300 pounds.
power to weight ratio for the porsche = 515/3043 = 0.17whp/lb
power to weight ratio for the Z = 750/3400 = 0.22whp/lb
huge advantage to the Z, if Z have good tires and can catch traction it shouldnt even be close. If Z dosnt have good tires and spins around, it should still catch up easily and destroy the porche.
*even if the Z is 750bhp, its still got at least 100more whp than the porsche

the 8.4k redline dosnt mean much, M3 has 8k rpm redline, but a Vette with the 6.0L LS2 V8 and low 6krmp redline will punish it with at the topend. S2000 has 9k rpm redline, but our topend power is also superior. redline only makes a difference if you have the simular power and torque curves, then the extra rpms should make a difference.
The GT top hp will be at 8k RPM.....where the z is at 6.2................and while you're in 3rd gear.....the porsche is still in 2nd.........other fact, GT has v10 engine and top speed of 205mph which will blow the z aways after 100mph........z with 750hp will weight at least 3500lb with all the turbo and upgrade brakes.............we don't know who is gonna win.....but I lean torward the Carrera GT..........Then how come our g35 have 50hps more than the S2000 and still lose?

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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 04:21 PM
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i highly doubt any race would last till 205mph, from 0-120 im pretty sure Z would destroy the carerra GT. even at 3500 lbs, Z's power to weight ratio is still much better than the carerra GT. 750/3500 = .21 compared to .17 for the GT. even if the Z weighs 4000 pounds, it would still have better power to weight ratio of .188. but if the race is for top speed then the GT would of course win.

since when do we loose to the s2000? the only way they can beat us is if the race starts from the dig, and they do a clutch burning high 6000+rpm launch to get a big jump in the begining. Even then its close... if the race is off the roll where they cant do their high rpm launch, our car have the advantage over them. if anything displacement is a bigger factor than redline.

also even with a higher redline, when they shift to the next gear, they dont jump back to zero, they only jump down a couple of thousand rpms just like our engine do... so each gear is still climbing around the same number of revs...
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 04:50 PM
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G-Tofu...with your mods you *should not* be losing to s2k's....

Also "there is no replacement for displacement" =)
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