I couldn't help but notice...
10-03-2011, 06:58 AM
#31
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??? Really what would that be???
for those not sure Exoticspeed is neither Korean or American made. Company is on Canada. Richmond, BC Canada
ExoticSpeed
Youtube clips Here-- Go to My Channel
G37X Pulls 298 WHP -230 WTQ on a Mustang dyno. - YouTube
for those not sure Exoticspeed is neither Korean or American made. Company is on Canada. Richmond, BC Canada
ExoticSpeed
Youtube clips Here-- Go to My Channel
G37X Pulls 298 WHP -230 WTQ on a Mustang dyno. - YouTube
10-03-2011, 10:28 AM
#32
And, as to the comment about the only people being able to appreciate/enjoy the exhaust are the owner and the guy doing oil changes...
Isn't that enough? I don't modify my car to impress strangers on the street or people I don't know. Do you? I'm happy knowing that I put quality parts on my car - it doesn't really matter to me if the guy sitting next to me at a stop light can't get under my car to check out the weight or welds of my exhaust system. If he is an enthusiast maybe he'll recognize some of the parts on my car and give me a 'thumbs up' or something, and that's cool. But that's certainly not the reason that I install those parts. I do it for my own satisfaction...
10-03-2011, 12:02 PM
#34
That was my bad if I confused anyone. I wasn't suggesting ExoticSpeed is Korean or American. I know it's a company out of Canada. I was just trying to make the general point...
And, as to the comment about the only people being able to appreciate/enjoy the exhaust are the owner and the guy doing oil changes...
Isn't that enough? I don't modify my car to impress strangers on the street or people I don't know. Do you? I'm happy knowing that I put quality parts on my car - it doesn't really matter to me if the guy sitting next to me at a stop light can't get under my car to check out the weight or welds of my exhaust system. If he is an enthusiast maybe he'll recognize some of the parts on my car and give me a 'thumbs up' or something, and that's cool. But that's certainly not the reason that I install those parts. I do it for my own satisfaction...
Yeah no cash left at the moment in my mod fund and it doesn't help that my wife crashed into our garage door a few days ago.
10-03-2011, 12:37 PM
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WPPJR30 100% right.
We/I mod, my/ our cars for us and us only. Things should always be that way, You earn your $$$ spend it the way YOU see fit not someone else or for something someone else likes-unless you like it also. But modding is and should be just for you!!
We/I mod, my/ our cars for us and us only. Things should always be that way, You earn your $$$ spend it the way YOU see fit not someone else or for something someone else likes-unless you like it also. But modding is and should be just for you!!
10-03-2011, 02:30 PM
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The people who buy products from companies that did the R&D buy from them because they did the R&D. They're not swayed by trying to save a few bucks. The people who buy cheap knock-offs, buy them because they know the real thing is out of reach and wouldn't have anything if they didn't buy something cheap.
Knock-offs don't hurt the industry, they add to it. I recently purchased a Stillen Gen 3 intake. I'd have still gone with Stillen if Stillex made a knock-off for half the price. I respect the work put into R&D and I feel confident in saying that most people here do too. For that guy who knows he can't afford a $500 intake, try Stillex for $250... Then Stillen and Stillex make money instead of just Stillen. 2 companies making money in the industry > 1 company making money in the industry.
Knock-offs don't hurt the industry, they add to it. I recently purchased a Stillen Gen 3 intake. I'd have still gone with Stillen if Stillex made a knock-off for half the price. I respect the work put into R&D and I feel confident in saying that most people here do too. For that guy who knows he can't afford a $500 intake, try Stillex for $250... Then Stillen and Stillex make money instead of just Stillen. 2 companies making money in the industry > 1 company making money in the industry.
10-04-2011, 11:16 AM
#42
I understand what you're saying. I agree with you to a certain extent.
However, you have to admit that ExoticSpeed is attempting to copy Amuse (maybe not in design exactly), but it's quite clear what they are going for in regards to appearance and even the name they decided to give to their system.
Amuse has the R-Titan and the RS-Silent systems. ExoticSpeed has named their systems the R1-Titan and RII-Titan, respectively.
However, you have to admit that ExoticSpeed is attempting to copy Amuse (maybe not in design exactly), but it's quite clear what they are going for in regards to appearance and even the name they decided to give to their system.
Amuse has the R-Titan and the RS-Silent systems. ExoticSpeed has named their systems the R1-Titan and RII-Titan, respectively.
10-04-2011, 11:56 AM
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I understand what you're saying. I agree with you to a certain extent.
However, you have to admit that ExoticSpeed is attempting to copy Amuse (maybe not in design exactly), but it's quite clear what they are going for in regards to appearance and even the name they decided to give to their system.
Amuse has the R-Titan and the RS-Silent systems. ExoticSpeed has named their systems the R1-Titan and RII-Titan, respectively.
However, you have to admit that ExoticSpeed is attempting to copy Amuse (maybe not in design exactly), but it's quite clear what they are going for in regards to appearance and even the name they decided to give to their system.
Amuse has the R-Titan and the RS-Silent systems. ExoticSpeed has named their systems the R1-Titan and RII-Titan, respectively.
GESS not like a bought OBX and calling it HKS or ARK
now thats a "knockoff".
10-04-2011, 12:19 PM
#44
No I know, You are right with what they call it and how it looks. ., I guess when I see that coment and the one about" People buy the replica becasue the "REAL" is out of reach $$$ wise".. I never even saw the Amuse before I bought this, and ARK copied HKS -Some what no?-. But no one ever says ARK is a "Knock off".. There was another commnet about RD and "knock offs not making power". Exocticspeed did their RD and made sure this system worked well with the VQ made power and sounded good. I made GREAT numbers with it.. There is a guy on here how was the very first G to have this.. He lives up by them and they used his car for the RD.
GESS not like a bought OBX and calling it HKS or ARKnow thats a "knockoff".
GESS not like a bought OBX and calling it HKS or ARK
now thats a "knockoff".
I also disagree with your comment about no one referring to ARK as a knock-off of HKS. Many people on this forum often make that comment.
I will be the first to say that I doubt the ExoticSpeed is a poor quality system. I have seen one of them, years ago, on a Z. I have never seen one on a G37. I believe you when you say that you are impressed with both the quality and performance you have experienced with this system.
I'm glad that you can concede that the ExoticSpeed is designed to look like the Amuse. There are many people here who refuse to acknowledge that ARK is a blatant copy of HKS. The argument, "There are only so many ways to design an exhaust," is my favorite defense of the Korean-made twin of the HKS Hi-Power. It is what it is.
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10-04-2011, 12:26 PM
#45
Dude seriously guys, stop arguing about the two exhausts. They are different brands, sure one can be knock-off of another, but what other companies don't do these kind of stuff.
Panasonic before 2000 completely reverse engineer all their products, look at where its at right now. Famous quote by Picasso - "Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal"
So who cares, as long as it looks good, deliver the performance and sound. someone will like to buy it. Just because you, WPPJR30 will not buy a Louis Vuitton replica, doesn't mean other people won't. Thats why theres a market for it.
Anyways, the most important part, I'm selling mine, anyone interested give me a shout!
Im selling not because of any above reasons, sound, looks, performance are all GREAT but i just need money now.
Panasonic before 2000 completely reverse engineer all their products, look at where its at right now. Famous quote by Picasso - "Good Artists Copy, Great Artists Steal"
So who cares, as long as it looks good, deliver the performance and sound. someone will like to buy it. Just because you, WPPJR30 will not buy a Louis Vuitton replica, doesn't mean other people won't. Thats why theres a market for it.
Anyways, the most important part, I'm selling mine, anyone interested give me a shout!
Im selling not because of any above reasons, sound, looks, performance are all GREAT but i just need money now.